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02-10-2010, 12:37 AM
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Abnormal Heart Rhythm..
For about the past year I have had abnormal heart rhythm, normally at night or while NOT under the influence. Being the stimulant freak that I am this might be expected, but it still concerns me.
I take COq10, magnesium, and flax oil every day to try to combat some of the negative effects I might be inflicting on my heart. Anyone had experience with this? Am I in danger? Suggestions to help? I don't want to tell my doctor because I am afraid it will grow concern about my script...
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See a different Dr. That doesn't sound like something you should be messing around with. Take your body seriously dude.
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02-10-2010, 12:51 AM
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Definitely just go get it checked out man. They're not going to immediately jump to the "hes a speed freak" conclusion just by telling them you've noticed some arrhythmia.
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02-10-2010, 01:04 AM
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So...wait...are the scripts for stimulants? I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but if you've got an abnormal heart rhythm, isn't that a bit more concerning to you? Because continued use of stimulants (particularly not under the supervision of a doctor that actually *knows* that you use stimulants) is probably a pretty bad idea.
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What do your career and your script have to do with each other? Would you be physically unable to do your job without it?? Your health is much more important man.
You are you man, the drugs aren't you.
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02-10-2010, 01:16 AM
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edit: p.s. what does your script have to do with your career? and is any career that costs you your health worth it? you don't get to keep the money when you're dead.
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02-10-2010, 01:23 AM
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 Anyway...looks like I got two choices, tell my main doc or go to a different doc...hmmm. Decisions, decisions...
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Listen, you're being purposefully elusive. I'm surmising that: a) you have a career b) upon which you feel that you're dependent on stimulants c) and you have a script for said stimulants You've also said you have a heart murmur. This may or may not be due to your use of stimulants -- you call yourself a "stimulant freak", so I don't know if you're abusing the things, or using them as directed or what. But at the end of the day, if you're going to the doctor to try and address a problem that is potentially related to your use of the stimulants, yeah, you should probably tell him. So be it if you go to a different doctor, but at least be honest with him. Because if it *is* related to your stimulant use.... Dude, heart murmur. Hearts aren't things you want to be fucking around with, and if yours is crying mercy maybe you should listen to it. I don't care how much you love your career, you're not going to love it when you're cold in the ground.
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02-10-2010, 01:59 AM
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Point taken.
Sorry for being elusive. I meant I love my career and don't want to end up failing a drug test with other dugs that I am self treating my AD/HD with..thanks for the advice Ollie.
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02-10-2010, 02:23 AM
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Do stimulants screw with heartrate in someone with ADHD the same way they would with a regular person? It seems they're used to balance a chemical deficiency in the brain, not overload it like recreational use does, would this still cause the other physical side effects of amphet use?
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02-10-2010, 02:38 AM
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edit: you might forgo work insurance for at least a check-up. that might prevent much of a record, but I'm not sure at all.
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I would do as everyone else has said and let someone check it out. But to bring you a bit of relief, when I was in 5th grade my pediatrition said I had a heart murmur. When I go to a new doctor they're always find it somewhat strange, yet it has never effected me really. I use caffeine regularly (pop and energy drinks), smoke (in which nicotine is a stimulant), and have done coke once and speed a few times. It's my senior year in HS, and I'm still kickin. I'd definitely get it checked out. Your heart isn't something to fuck with. However, don't get to stressed over it. Overlooking the fact that the stress would fuck your heart over more, I've had an abnormal heart for years (probably stemming partially from the fact my mom smoked through my entire pregnancy) and it hasn't caused me any major harm.
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02-10-2010, 03:31 AM
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When I'm out of opiates my heart beats irregularly and harder for some reason. This happens for the first 72 hours of w/d's. Thought I'd bring it up..... It's scared me before but it goes away after the third day..... I know that it's a serious thing so you should take yours even more seriously! Uppers fuck your shit up with your heart so be careful.
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02-10-2010, 03:37 AM
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Some heart murmurs are completely benign. I have a heart murmur as well. Sometimes it can be a sign of a bigger problem which is why their is such a negative connotation to them but most are nothing at all.
A heart murmur is simply a leaky heart valve. They can be leaky for any number of reasons. If they tell you yours is benign then you can do anything and run no more risks than someone with a perfectly normal and healthy heart can. But definitely get it checked out. They're just gunna send you for an echo cardiogram. From there they can tell if it is benign or if there is something else that seems fishy they'll juts send you for a couple more in depth diagnostic tests. No biggy at all man, just make sure you have a clean bill of health.
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02-10-2010, 03:57 AM
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I am definitely going to get it checked out....I'll post back my results. However, it'll be a couple of months when I get my regular check up. Truly, thanks for the support and I am still up for suggestions as well.
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02-10-2010, 04:01 AM
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You really should also look into these supplements you are taking. There have been a few cases where people taking them had drug reactions with other medications. The supplements industry isn't regulated by the FDA as long as they don't make claims that the supps cure anything. This is after you get checked out by the doctor of course.
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When you get a fuller diagnosis i may be able to give some ore advice too. I suffer from supraventricular tachycardia, but so far, stimiulants have not been the things that have brought it on badly. I usually have the issues while playing sport, and have been offered a few paths to take in order to correct it all. Not sure which one to take however.
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There is difference between a heart murmur and an abnormal rhythm. Just google or look at this page for info about Abnormal Heart Rhythm
http://www.medicinenet.com/arrhythmi...cle.htm#causes There's some serious stuff going on there. I don't think I'd be so cavalier about it if it were my heart. Plus each case is different. I wouldn't take advice about treating the condition from anyone but a doctor.
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02-21-2010, 11:48 PM
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I thought I had a heart attack for sure the other day...ended up in the hospital. EKG good, blood work good, heart X-ray good.
It's stress and anxiety related. I guess I was just tolerant of it until it simulated a heart attack.....I was the most scared I have been in my whole life....mostly because I thought I was going to die of a heart attack....shew. So followed up with the doctor after the hospital visit and got some klonopins....they really help with the anxiety/stress bit. SO YAY!!! Good news....nothing wrong with my heart.
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Just to update and elaborate further, my heart arrythmias are completely gone after starting on klonopin! Yay! Benzos!
I can also talk to people and be socialble, unlike before when the slightest thing would send my brain into a loop (maybe wound too tight from all the speed in the past?) and anxiety would set in like a mofo, although I was really tolerant to it until I felt like I had a heart attack....but anyway...YAY!
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If I were you, see a doctor.
Tell him you do take stimulants, and how often. They can't tell anyone, and its better off they know than not knowing since they are your doctor. If they start lecturing you, either sit through it, or get them to cut to the point. Which will most likely be, stop doing stimulants, or at least don't do them as regularly as you'd like.
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