Let's Make Opium! (with pics!) - Page 2

LimestoneMan · 03-08-2008, 09:11 PM

I'm loving how primitive this is. It's so easy, but it works so well. Greatest invention of ancient times.

m0ldy · 03-08-2008, 10:31 PM

I found this on another forum, this sounds like a pretty good method also.

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After some experimenting I have come up with a new method to obtain a smokeable product from tea. Or rather, how to extract opium from pods either fresh or dry.

1. Take pods, dried or fresh, and freeze them
2. Add 4 parts water for each 1 part pod material into a blender and grind it up good
3. Pour it over in a mug or similar, stirr it well for some minutes, then let it sit for about 1 hour in room temp.
4. Strain it to discard the biggest chunks, use a strainer with fairly big holes.
5. Fill the upper brown and most clear layer over into a bottle, let the rest stay in the mug
6. Extract the goo and particles left in the mug with more water, like was done with the pods in step 2 and 3.
7. Strain and pour this solution also over into the bottle
8. Shake bottle and put in a freezer (Dont cap the bottle, could explode if pressure expands it while freezing)
9. When half the solution in the bottle has frozen filtrate it with a cloth (t-shirts work fine) and discard the ice.
10. Put the solution back into bottle, shake it well, freeze it down again like in step 8 and 9.
11. Take this second filtrated solution and evaporate it in a pot placed in a larger pot with cooking water (warm bath)
12. The brown substance left in the smaller pot when evaporated, sometimes a bit like mexican tar, can be smoked.

This type of Morphine salt extracted with this method is highly soluble in cold water
No need for any acidic chemicals in the process, no ascorbic acid, lemon juice, etc. This makes it less soluble.
The morphine stays in the water, the junk in the ice that you discard.

Thats basically it, have fun.

Aerindae · 05-21-2008, 08:22 PM

Nice,

I bought 25-30 pods on ebay.

I got my ph down around 5.3 and let them soak for 2 days and shook whenever I thought about it.

I used a pyrex baking dish for my evap, set my oven to 170 (lowest possible setting) and it took about 19 hours to get to the gummy consistancy that I wanted.

The end product was so good that I didn't even take any morphine yesterday.

Thanks for the guide.

ArucardX · 05-22-2008, 03:58 PM

Congratulations on your first successful pod extraction. Its quite different from specific opium derivatives, no? To each his/her own, but I like the natural feeling of the poppies better than any derivative (except heroin), plus its a hell of a lot cheaper (except heroin). But heroin I'd put in a class all its own from other opiates, its got some serious firepower.

D.Ginsberg · 05-22-2008, 09:16 PM

I just wanted to point out that, although this is a spectacular guide to extracting the active alkaloids from dried poppy pods, it does not yield opium. It yields something that seems like opium, and it does, as I said, contain the active alkaloids but it is simply nothing more than evaporated 'pod tea.'

Opium is the latex collected from the immature LIVE poppy pod by method of scoring said pod. It is then refined a bit further most of the time to yield real smokable opium.

What is shown here is a good method to get a fairly strong narcotic that is much easier to ingest than pod tea but it is not opium.

RideTheWhiteDragon · 09-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Question:

I know you can chase the dragon with foil to smoke the more tar like shit you get from the extraction, but what about the crystal like shit? Out of every batch I get thicker goop like resin that can be smoked off foil, and I get this thin, flakey, crystally kind of resin that I can't smoke.

Direct heat seems to just kill anything in it. Can't really smoke it off foil since its not really that kind of substance. Unless I'm just not burning it right. So what do I do with this shit?

ArucardX · 09-20-2008, 04:10 PM

With the flakey crystals, I usually will just eat'em up before smoking the goo. One idea I haven't tried that may work would be to put it in a lightbulb-/good-vaporizer if you have one since opium was originally vaporized to get its effects. Let me know how it turns out.

RideTheWhiteDragon · 09-22-2008, 04:21 AM

I just tried putting it under my tongue. Very weak effects and tastes bitter. Not worth it imo.

TheDopeMan · 09-22-2008, 07:52 PM

Where can I buy these poppy pods? Can I just go to the nearest garden shop and ask for poppies or are these a special strain of the poppy?

chriscoe · 10-15-2008, 03:06 AM

Can i use dried poppy pods? the ones on eBay for example or would it be recommend that i grow my own? and would anyone know how or be able to lead me somewhere where i could learn a method to make the opium into fine powder to be insufflated?

ArucardX · 10-15-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chriscoe

Can i use dried poppy pods? the ones on eBay for example or would it be recommend that i grow my own? and would anyone know how or be able to lead me somewhere where i could learn a method to make the opium into fine powder to be insufflated?

You don't have to grow your own, as the poppy is not *technically* illegal and can be bought even from the corner flower shop. This guide is what you will want to follow to make an insufflatable powder. After the first extraction, simply redissolve your opium gum and let it dry out again to purify it further. Once all of the water is gone, what you should have left is a bunch of crystal-like flakes that you can grind into a powder and insufflate.

Phredrick · 10-15-2008, 08:58 PM

What would be the smallest amount of poppy material needed for this to not be a waste of time and energy? I want to try opium but I can't make it on a very large scale. The parental units would flip script.

ArucardX · 10-16-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phredrick

What would be the smallest amount of poppy material needed for this to not be a waste of time and energy? I want to try opium but I can't make it on a very large scale. The parental units would flip script.

How big is your tolerance?

Phredrick · 10-17-2008, 06:37 AM

I don't really know. I can IV an OC80 in two shots and feel really good and not at all concerned with ODing.

ArucardX · 10-17-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phredrick

I don't really know. I can IV an OC80 in two shots and feel really good and not at all concerned with ODing.

It may take some time, but your best use of the pods would be to extract out the opium and then further extract out the Morphine, as you'd have to drink quite a lot of liquid to match two OC80's. However I would not ever recommend shooting up a product you made through a self-extraction as the impurities may do some heavy damage.

Phredrick · 10-17-2008, 06:13 PM

I was wanting to try smoking opium. I would never put anything in my veins that I made so no worries. Also what I meant in my previous post I can do 1 oc80 in two shots back to back.

Vintersorg · 10-21-2008, 08:34 PM

Holy shit. I tried some of the tea yesterday and I'm still feeling kind of calm and itchy. This is amazing, and I still have a good thirty-something pods left.

I have a question though. If I evaporate this down to little balls and store it in my lucky Altoids tin, about how long do you think it'd last? Does this stuff go bad?

Vintersorg · 10-28-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintersorg

Holy shit. I tried some of the tea yesterday and I'm still feeling kind of calm and itchy. This is amazing, and I still have a good thirty-something pods left.

I have a question though. If I evaporate this down to little balls and store it in my lucky Altoids tin, about how long do you think it'd last? Does this stuff go bad?

Anything on this? I have about a gram of this made up from about 10 grams of straw (9.64g actually, but close enough) and I haven't even finished scraping the pan. The issue is that it's so damn sticky. Is there any easy way to get it from the pan into some sort of other container?

HeroInTheHat · 10-31-2008, 03:17 AM

To Vintersorg;
-It does not go bad, but will become less potent over time and with prolonged exposure to heat/light.
-When evaporating the CPS solution (cooked poppy straw) to get the opium, don't stop once you see solids clumping up. You can always wait it out longer and let the opium further evaporate the rest of the liquid until you get your preffered state of dryness. I reccomend drying fully to flaked opium, which is litterally opium evaporated down to a powder which can then be smoked like one would with heroin off aluminum foild. "Chasing the dragon" as it's known.

chriscoe · 11-09-2008, 09:38 PM

sorry to post basically the same exact thing again. but i just want to make sure.. can i buy dried poppy pods? will they still work? compared to using 'fresh' pods?

make_it_rain · 11-10-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chriscoe

sorry to post basically the same exact thing again. but i just want to make sure.. can i buy dried poppy pods? will they still work? compared to using 'fresh' pods?

don't take my word for it as i've never tried this but I know you need to get the resin out of the pods its kind of latex-y looking from what I know i'm guessing that would not come out of the pods no matter how much you score them if they aren't fresh.

ArucardX · 11-10-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chriscoe

sorry to post basically the same exact thing again. but i just want to make sure.. can i buy dried poppy pods? will they still work? compared to using 'fresh' pods?

Yes, this process is written to be used with dried pods.

chriscoe · 11-12-2008, 07:45 PM

okay, thanks. well see how this goes. great fuckin post

Stiffy · 11-23-2008, 05:11 AM

Fucking awesome. I can't wait to try this. Thanks dude.

Usieo · 01-29-2009, 10:36 AM

...so ....those little balls u combine with tabacco ? like hash or just like that

beans · 03-18-2009, 06:42 PM

Just ordered some pods, I'll be trying this within the next week.

rich420 · 03-26-2009, 07:48 AM

What EXACT kind of pods should I get? Is there any name for the pods I should buy?

ArucardX · 03-26-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rich420

What EXACT kind of pods should I get? Is there any name for the pods I should buy?

Make sure it is of the strain Papaver Somniferum (P. Somniferum).

rich420 · 03-30-2009, 08:40 AM

Ok, can they be dried pods, or?

A lot of details on this would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

ArucardX · 03-30-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rich420

Ok, can they be dried pods, or?

A lot of details on this would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Yes, it is the dried pods that are used.

05-21-2008, 08:22 PM	#33
Aerindae Veteran Pill Head Join Date: May 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 82	Finished product Nice, I bought 25-30 pods on ebay. I got my ph down around 5.3 and let them soak for 2 days and shook whenever I thought about it. I used a pyrex baking dish for my evap, set my oven to 170 (lowest possible setting) and it took about 19 hours to get to the gummy consistancy that I wanted. The end product was so good that I didn't even take any morphine yesterday. Thanks for the guide.

05-22-2008, 03:58 PM	#34
ArucardX Entering the Nexus Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,310	Congratulations on your first successful pod extraction. Its quite different from specific opium derivatives, no? To each his/her own, but I like the natural feeling of the poppies better than any derivative (except heroin), plus its a hell of a lot cheaper (except heroin). But heroin I'd put in a class all its own from other opiates, its got some serious firepower. __________________ "The Shaman is the Mythmaker, and the source of his faith is his own experiences of the Divine in Nature." There is knowledge that cannot be explained.

09-20-2008, 04:10 PM	#37
ArucardX Entering the Nexus Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,310	With the flakey crystals, I usually will just eat'em up before smoking the goo. One idea I haven't tried that may work would be to put it in a lightbulb-/good-vaporizer if you have one since opium was originally vaporized to get its effects. Let me know how it turns out. __________________ "The Shaman is the Mythmaker, and the source of his faith is his own experiences of the Divine in Nature." There is knowledge that cannot be explained.

10-15-2008, 08:58 PM	#42
Phredrick Let's snort some atoms. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City 405 Posts: 1,936	What would be the smallest amount of poppy material needed for this to not be a waste of time and energy? I want to try opium but I can't make it on a very large scale. The parental units would flip script. __________________ "If you always do what you almost did, you will always get what you almost got." Phredrick "Reach for the stars, so if you fall you land on a cloud" Kanye West

10-17-2008, 06:37 AM	#44
Phredrick Let's snort some atoms. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City 405 Posts: 1,936	I don't really know. I can IV an OC80 in two shots and feel really good and not at all concerned with ODing. __________________ "If you always do what you almost did, you will always get what you almost got." Phredrick "Reach for the stars, so if you fall you land on a cloud" Kanye West

05-22-2008, 09:16 PM	#35
D.Ginsberg Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9	I just wanted to point out that, although this is a spectacular guide to extracting the active alkaloids from dried poppy pods, it does not yield opium. It yields something that seems like opium, and it does, as I said, contain the active alkaloids but it is simply nothing more than evaporated 'pod tea.' Opium is the latex collected from the immature LIVE poppy pod by method of scoring said pod. It is then refined a bit further most of the time to yield real smokable opium. What is shown here is a good method to get a fairly strong narcotic that is much easier to ingest than pod tea but it is not opium.

09-19-2008, 03:46 PM	#36
RideTheWhiteDragon Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ny Posts: 1,820	Question: I know you can chase the dragon with foil to smoke the more tar like shit you get from the extraction, but what about the crystal like shit? Out of every batch I get thicker goop like resin that can be smoked off foil, and I get this thin, flakey, crystally kind of resin that I can't smoke. Direct heat seems to just kill anything in it. Can't really smoke it off foil since its not really that kind of substance. Unless I'm just not burning it right. So what do I do with this shit?

09-22-2008, 04:21 AM	#38
RideTheWhiteDragon Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ny Posts: 1,820	I just tried putting it under my tongue. Very weak effects and tastes bitter. Not worth it imo.

09-22-2008, 07:52 PM	#39
TheDopeMan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 112	Where can I buy these poppy pods? Can I just go to the nearest garden shop and ask for poppies or are these a special strain of the poppy?

10-15-2008, 03:06 AM	#40
chriscoe I'm New! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 3	Can i use dried poppy pods? the ones on eBay for example or would it be recommend that i grow my own? and would anyone know how or be able to lead me somewhere where i could learn a method to make the opium into fine powder to be insufflated?

10-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#46
Phredrick Let's snort some atoms. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City 405 Posts: 1,936	I was wanting to try smoking opium. I would never put anything in my veins that I made so no worries. Also what I meant in my previous post I can do 1 oc80 in two shots back to back. __________________ "If you always do what you almost did, you will always get what you almost got." Phredrick "Reach for the stars, so if you fall you land on a cloud" Kanye West

10-21-2008, 08:34 PM	#47
Vintersorg Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 34	Holy shit. I tried some of the tea yesterday and I'm still feeling kind of calm and itchy. This is amazing, and I still have a good thirty-something pods left. I have a question though. If I evaporate this down to little balls and store it in my lucky Altoids tin, about how long do you think it'd last? Does this stuff go bad?

11-09-2008, 09:38 PM	#50
chriscoe I'm New! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 3	sorry to post basically the same exact thing again. but i just want to make sure.. can i buy dried poppy pods? will they still work? compared to using 'fresh' pods?

11-12-2008, 07:45 PM	#53
chriscoe I'm New! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 3	okay, thanks. well see how this goes. great fuckin post

11-23-2008, 05:11 AM	#54
Stiffy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: City of Syrup, Houston Posts: 504	Fucking awesome. I can't wait to try this. Thanks dude.

01-29-2009, 10:36 AM	#55
Usieo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1	...so ....those little balls u combine with tabacco ? like hash or just like that Last edited by Usieo : 01-29-2009 at 10:41 AM.

03-18-2009, 06:42 PM	#56
beans Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,660	Just ordered some pods, I'll be trying this within the next week.

03-26-2009, 07:48 AM	#57
rich420 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 27	What EXACT kind of pods should I get? Is there any name for the pods I should buy?

03-30-2009, 08:40 AM	#59
rich420 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 27	Ok, can they be dried pods, or? A lot of details on this would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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