I got round to getting some for the first time, and am wondering from anyones experience, what would be a good dose to get some serious dissociation going?
MXE dose question
I got round to getting some for the first time, and am wondering from anyones experience, what would be a good dose to get some serious dissociation going?
Depending on what kind you have 25mg can floor you the first time. When MXE first became available, the first few batches were a strange compound (most claim tiletamine, strange brown/white crystaline structure). Recently, about 6 months ago, the quality has risen drastically. Because of the demand for this chemical price drops while quality rises.
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I would check Erowid first, but its always best to start small and work your way up. You should think about doing small dose, (10-20mg), first just to check to see if you are allergic or if you got some bad stuff. Keep in mind that not everyone is the same and what could be good for one person could kill another.
With all that in mind, good luck and enjoy!
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When I initially got my first shipment of it I was eating it and found 55-60 milligrams tro be quite disassociating. After SHF recommended I try snorting it (by far the best ROA IMO), I found thirty milligrams to be the right breakthrough dose. Just from you post on this site it's my understanding your a pretty avid K user. This is not like ketamine. I Don't find the same type of euphoria and almost no OEV's. And an almost thirty hour zombification period post-dose. Don't get me wrong I'm not blasting it as I plan on ordering ten grams when the funds are right, Just don't think it's as "clean" as K. let us know how it pans out for you.
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Originally Posted by girl
It didnt go too well to say the least...It was my own fault, I redosed too much when I was already in a fairly fucked state (I tend to do this a lot), something which I have now learned this drug will not forgive you for. Coming into it, I knew not to do that, but when the time came and I wasnt exactly thinking straight, I reverted to my old ways and paid the price of a very unpleasant night. But the day before that when I first tried it, I was a tad more responsible it was more enjoyable.
What happened bro? You got me wanting more. lol If you don't want to share that's straight, it could have been very traumatizing or something. Glad you are okay man.
Without getting into some of the more intricate details, I went through phases of time when I thought: i was dead, insane (and even as I started to recover I was convinced Id done permanent damage due to how it lingers) and ended up in the a&e with symptoms which may or may not have fully resolved themselves yet (and may or may not be linked to other issues, almost a good thing as im keeping an eye on myself)
It certainly is not as warm and pleasant as k, and far less forgiving. The hole is very different, and much less pleasant. With k Ive had similar feelings of not knowing whether I was alive as a human anymore, but it was not disturbing in the slightest. The mxe seems to add an element of realism to the hole and all the negatives I experienced whereas ket envelopes me with almost a reassurance that its just the drug, even when you experience ego loss.
This experience and a couple of other nights which ended the wrong way have made me rethink things, and (although it may not last) I need to give it a rest, as like i said in another thread, theres plenty of reasons why I should never have fucked with drugs in the first place.
Last edited by neveroddoreven; 10-23-2011 at 08:52 PM.
How big do you dose your lines? I like to do small bumps of MKET rather than proper ket lines, otherwise things can get a bit too intense.
If I'm doing a line to get a decent buzz then it'll be a little bit smaller than a ket line. Glad you got to try MXE, neverodd.
...And only then until it's augmented, packaged, and pumped through 10,000 pre-assigned filters till it's nothing more than a meaningless series of lights, while we ride day in day out, going where? Powering what? All tiny cells and tiny screens and bigger cells and bigger screens and FUCK YOU for sitting there and slowly making things worse...
a decent bit smaller than k lines, which i like to be around the 150-200mg mark if im with others, 250 maybe if im on my own. I started off with small bumps, then a couple of hours later got stupid and did maybe a 100mg accompanied by several bumps about 20mins after. the onset fooled me i guess, even though i had read up on it and knew it takes longer to kick in than k. ill give it another go in a few months time and be more sensible. i went through 500mg in about 36 hours which i know was stupid.
Yeah 500mg in 36 hours is pushing it a little, but hey we've all done it. Hopefully you get to enjoy it, it's pretty awesome.
...And only then until it's augmented, packaged, and pumped through 10,000 pre-assigned filters till it's nothing more than a meaningless series of lights, while we ride day in day out, going where? Powering what? All tiny cells and tiny screens and bigger cells and bigger screens and FUCK YOU for sitting there and slowly making things worse...
daily MXE use changed my personality, and made me significantly dumber for months after cessation. Completely different animal than K.
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Care to elaborate? I am beginning to experience similar after dosing a gram throughout the course of a month or so. My working memory, social skills and creativity appear to be impacted the greatest, but who knows what other faculties took a few hits thanks to my biweekly MXE use.
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My use was at about your level for two or three months, followed by about half a gram a day for two weeks, towards the end use increased to almost a full gram (for a few days). For months after cessation I could not find anything, even things I had in my hand. I began to stutter and have erratic mood swings. People react differently to different things, but I am almost positive that this drug caused irreversible and/or lasting damage to my brain.
edit; on a visit to my parents my girlfriend and I decided to do MXE one last time last summer. I lost contact with reality completely and ended up in the emergency room. That was my last visit to mxe land.
Last edited by moe.ron; 11-05-2011 at 09:05 PM.
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Thanks for sharing that, ill take more care now with how regularly I use. I hope nothing permanent comes from your situation
I am glad you made this thread. I really was starting to wonder if I was the only user that experienced such burnt out effects after heavy/repeated useage. That shit had people at work thinking there was something seriouslyy wrong with me because of discordination and just being lightweight anti-social (which believe you me I am anything but the ladder). Still I think it's an awesome drug and it deffinitly holds it's place among dissociatives. But when you take it to far, I guess we should have expected these things. Thats what I get for filling my nose with a chemical that hasn't even been around long enough to document long term effects.
"Remember what the Dormous said, Feed your head"
So how is that different from K? Most heavy users I knew were also eraserheads.
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from these reports I would say you can get away with K significantly longer then MXE.
Maybe due to the potency onley's lesions are to be expected with heavy MXE use. K has never made me feel this way and I used to do ketamine extremely frequently. The only long-term side effect from K are my erratic ideas about the nature of the universe and life.
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I was also an everyday user for a month or so. I lost touch with pretty much everything; I even missed my best friends birthday (which is fucking wrong in my book, I'd usually drag myself there even if I was in a coma).
I've regained my confidence and am pretty sure you guys can, too. I did a gram of fucking potent K last night and still feel a bit distorted, but I know it wont last. I'd bet money on you guys being fine longterm, although I obviously can't say for sure. All I know is that things only got better for me after quitting.
...And only then until it's augmented, packaged, and pumped through 10,000 pre-assigned filters till it's nothing more than a meaningless series of lights, while we ride day in day out, going where? Powering what? All tiny cells and tiny screens and bigger cells and bigger screens and FUCK YOU for sitting there and slowly making things worse...
MXE just makes me sleep anywhere I sit LoL I took 30 mg once and everyone said I lost 3 weeks of time and they threatened to take me to rehab. I totally remember those 3 weeks and didn't think anything was wrong. But sleeping sitting up with your arms out in front of everyone was dumb LoL
Last edited by LuLubell; 11-08-2011 at 11:26 AM. Reason: the dog did it
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
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And I get the complete opposite, cant sleep for several hours after dosing, which is annoying since I only do it at night
I guess my body chemistry cant handle a high dose. I still use it but in like 10mg doses to where noone really notices and it doesn't mess me up that bad. But it will last for days on me. totally weird. My friends used the same batch and don't get that. The experience it the right way. Guess i'm wired backwards
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
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I have a high tolerance to MXE then it seems, because I take 50-65mg and don't get that crazy feeling like some of you do off of it. I have seen people get mad fucked up off of 35mg before, but I have to take around 100mg to get in the zone. I am not a daily user either. Yesterday I took about 125mg, in the span of an hour and a half. I was gone haha.
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I went through 4 grams so far this week, maybe it's time to stop dosing.
"People who say money doesn't matter are like people who say cake doesn't matter;
it's probably because they've already had a few slices."
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Jesus man, that's like 570mg a fucking day. I'd cut back if I were you.
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I had been using MXE every day steadily for the past three months or so, and due to legal issues decided it would be best to maintain an ever increasing level of dissociation, and my use got up to 120mg IM, 5 times daily. These past few days I have been without, and feel like utter crap mentally, but not much physically (ie. sweating, puking, etc.). I only blame my self for this.
"People who say money doesn't matter are like people who say cake doesn't matter;
it's probably because they've already had a few slices."
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Mxe da shit
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I think its crazy how you went from bi-weekly to 5 times a day. It was over the course of time but still. :/ It will probably be illegal before I ever try it and that may be for the best. :P Surprised withdrawals from your massive use is not so bad. That is good.
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Don't give yourself brain damage, Seth. You're too smart for that.
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Been 5 days clean from MXE, hopefully this impairment isn't going to hang around too much longer. Thanks for your support, Lex.
"People who say money doesn't matter are like people who say cake doesn't matter;
it's probably because they've already had a few slices."
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