Shooting Dilaudid

[mikejones7]

So the other day I tried shooting heroin for the first time, and yesterday I had the chance to try shooting Dilaudid. From everything I read, I decided with my tolerance to opiates, to start off shooting 4mg (2 2mg pills).

So I crushed them up, put em on the spoon, mixed with water, didn't heat (I remember reading you're not supposed to heat the spoon when you're trying to shoot any pills), mixed it up really well, then put down the cotton, and sucked up the water, tied off, then shot.

I'm almost positive we didn't miss (my friend did it for me because I'm afraid of needles and can't do it myself) because there was blood in the syringe when he pulled up before injecting it. I snorted 2 (4mg) pill about 2 hours before shooting it.

Keep in mind I looked up the pill imprint before I touched them to make sure they were legit, and they were definetly 2mg hydromorphone (dilaudid) pills. It had an "M" on one side and "2" on the other, so I know they were real.

I remember reading that the rush from shooting dilaudid was comparible, if not better, than shooting heroin, which I've done 5 times in the past 3 days, which was the first time I ever did it, and I only did between $10 and $30 each time, and the shit wasn't that good. Anyway, it didn't get me nearly as high as I thought it would, hardly any rush whatsoever, and not a very good high. And earlier that day I snorted 4mg of it, and it got me higher than it did when I shot it.

Anyone have any idea why it didn't get me as high as it should? I crushed it up enough so there were hardly any chunks, if any at all. And I mxied it up with the water very well, and as I said, did NOT heat it as I heard not to do with pills. Also, as I said, I'm 99% sure we didn't miss, and 100% sure they were real (since I got high off snorting them, and I read the imprint). Any help would be appreciated as I was very dissapointed. I've heard great things about shooting them.

Did I not take enough? Did I forget to do something? I'm confused and PISSED.

[Vengeful Scars]

Ok first, with pills, there ARE some pills you must cook in order to get high. Morphine, Old OC's. Now with Dilaudids, if they are not the shake and shoots(which would be the yellow K4 4mgs) you must use hot water when mixing it up. Typically, I crush the pills add water, and apply flame to the spoon, not enough to boil, just enough to heat all the water, stir, and then get to shooting.

With Roxys, and Dilaudids, you need to use hot water to get the drugs to dissolve. And Dilaudid rush is not comparable to Heroin at all. the drug is almost nothing but a rush, like you get an intense rush for about 10 minutes, then stay high for like 1-2hrs(leaning closer to 1), and then you pretty much go back to baseline. But yea, there isn't much high to Dilaudid.

But a good idea to remember is, I need to cook most pills, or maybe just get the water hot.

I cook all my pills(Roxys, Oxys, Dillys, Morphine) just out of habit, even if you do cook a little bit of your roxy/dilaudid up and get it to boil, so long as you have a decent amount of water in the spoon you aren't going to lose much product.

But you should have felt something off of 4mgs, even if not all of it was in the rig.

[Socially Inept]

I wasn't super impressed with the dilaudid rush, either- MJ. I don't shoot often, but people talk about it being so great so when I had the opportunity to try it, of course I did.. It was sorta "meh" compared to what I was expecting.

But really- how did you snort 4mg and get high? With (from what I know) your tolerance, 4mg insuffulated isn't shit.. it seems like you would need at the very least 10-15mg to even catch a small buzz..

[MMAfan23]

I gotta agree with SI here. How the hell did you get high off of 4mg insufflated based on what I assume your tolerance is from your posts? I have a tolerance similar to what yours is probably and it takes me like 16mg's and some Xanax or Valium to get a good high off of snorted Dilaudid.

[Oscar]

I sniffed 4mg of dilaudid and I didn't feel a damn thing. I have a slight feeling that your tolerance is higher than.mine seeing that you are an everyday user. I think there was some sort of operator error on how you diluted the dilaudid (see what I did there) like VS said the water needs to be hot. Maybe that was the issue.

[94blackhatch]

I have only used room temperature water with the mali 8mg dilaudids and I always get a great rush. I can shoot half of it and get a really strong rush that is just shorter than doing the whole thing. But dilaudid to me is the crack of opiates, big awesome rush and the high does not last.

[swell88]

Yeah, honesty nothing will be as good as dope if thats what your into... i hear the BS about the crazy rush Dilaudids give you too... ya kno what those were the people who aren't that deep into the dope game. the old OC and Opanias are the only rivals. i for the first time shot up 6 mg of Dilaudid... YES there is a rush. last for about 5 mins and now i'm not even that high. i find the same thing with roxy / blue / 30z.... Its almost better to blow them, they stay in your system longer, unless your looking for that 5-10min 'crazy rush" - noobs... shoot it but idk i dont think its worth it. I might try 8mg but i dont even think it'll compare... come on dude, your doing dirty and if ya getting fire like i am... Aint much gonna compare plain and simple.

[..paradigm, dashed.]

i don't know, when i was in the hospital, and maybe this is because i was pretty naive to opiates back then, but 1mg of their hospital hydromorphone suspension shit, was a great rush, and lasted about 1-2 hours, however,when i tried to dissolve and slam an 8mg hydromorphone IR pill, cold or hot water doesn't matter, it just doesn't compare to that 1mg of hydromorphone that was produced to be IV in the first place. also, if you have a tolerance to heroin, it seems the general consensus is that slamming pills like oxycodone or hydromorphone just won't cut it, probably because of poor dissolving and shorter half-lives.

[HeroInTheHat]

Don't "cook" those pills. Opiates have great solubility in room temperature water. Not to mention everyone and their mother know opiates lose potency as heat rises. Other than that, you don't want to dissolve the inactive ingredients that normally wouldn't with room temp water. Dilaudid is a great rush. You need a higher dose. Just gradually raise. Last time I recommended a dose I got my ass chewed out. Rightfully so, too. I'm glad the person brought it to my attention. Just be careful. If you do it right, with the right dose for your metabolism and weight and tolerance to opiods, dilaudid is the crack of all opiates. (IV)

And make sure you sufficiently mix in the water, and get all the water out.

Just my personal story, at my peak me and my med school girl were doing 48mg+ of dilaudid IV. Don't try that please. But don't let anyone tell you it's not a great rush. With ALL variables considered in different types of people, that's a mathematical and biochemical inevitability that it'll keep you coming back for more. Unless you are allergic. Just get the dose right. (not anywhere close to 48mg, I stress this.) My orgo professor agrees. Please be safe! And heroin was my thing. Yeah. I was "deep" into the dope game. As far as you can go. Scars was right about the high as opposed to the rush. But when the dose rises the high stays and lingers. That's when it gets dangerous on the respiratory system if you don't have the tolerance for it.

[doublestaxx]

Recommending a dose would probably be a bad idea from me as well, but all I'm gonna say is that if you haven't experienced a rush greater than dope from dilly you're not doing enough. A proper shot of dilly will almost leave you gasping for air.

And please up your doses a mg at a time, one mg makes a difference in a shot.

[Shay]

I'm in the hospital right now and at first they had me on 3mg iv and now they've weened me down to .5 mg. The rush on 3 was kick ass but .5 is barely worth mentioning, but I do feel a very slight rush regardless. They give me pills too, every 4 hours I get 3 2mg pills. So I wanna put two of my pills into my iv. I've been reading a lot and the only thing unclear to me is the cotton ball. I use a whole one? Wouldn't that absorb all of the liquid, and when I suck it up, wouldn't a significant amount be left behind?

[rodneyrdr]

If you don't mind me asking, what condition are you suffering from and how do you get so much dilaudid in there? As to the injection of pills, I always just smashed em between two pages of a glossy magazine. Fold it up and pop it with a piece of wood or something hard to powder it up. Some people just pour the powder into the syringe, add water, shake and you're ready to roll. I prefer to heat it a little bit till clear yellow then draw it up and wham bam thank u mam!!! Take care and don't enjoy it too much in there.

[rodneyrdr]

You're right about the hot water. Some people on here holler and bitch when u mention heat on a opiate like dilaudid,MS,etc. but the fact is that it helps dissolve it. Now those K4's should have made that guy to have to sit down during the rush, the damn thing is just heaven no doubt about it. lmao Take care and enjoy all your dillys, I can't ever find em.

[Shay]

Yay, thank you, sounds easy. I got hit by a speeding truck while I was walking. My lower back shattered, hip bones broke in 3 places, one leg broke and the other got mangled, broken is an understatement for that one. I have severe nerve damage and pain. Even all this dilaudid is barely cutting it, next step is methadone.

[HeroInTheHat]

Uhh yeah no kidding heat helps dissolve it. That's why people do it, it dissolves water soluble chemicals faster. At the same time making them less potent. No one is saying it won't work. Its just a legitimate fact that opioids will lose potency with heat applied. Not to mention heating dissolves innactive ingredients that can (yep, wait for it) BE UNHEALTHY. Not make you throw up unhealthy, does anyone here understand the circulatory system? Now whether you're willing to accept that in exchange for faster results is on you. Go take a highschool chemistry class and then think twice before giving false advice/information. Shame on you.

Edit: There is so much false information/dangerous information being handed out here that is detrimental to users health that it's absolutely ridiculous. Please people, wtf? Research credible medical sites, MSDS of chemicals, the actual pharmaceutical company's website that explains the properties of pills before posting stupid advice or information that isn't true. Or go to school for chemistry if you want to tell people about it. My god that's what I did. I don't know everything but this is simple guys, come on. This is peoples' health we are dealing with. I'm trying to relate to everyone by admitting I'm a junkie and half and everything stereotypical that goes with it. I honestly don't even know what else to say.

Pour the powder straight into the syringe? Wtf? Does the OP even have Kwhatevers? As if that makes it safe anyway? I'm sorry I'm out of line and using abbreviations on my mobile, administrators. But this needs to be addressed.

[Ineedtherightanswers]

I really need help here if anyone can help me please do. Okay I have the m 4 dilaudids before I would just crush up add water and draw up into syringe and everything worked out just fine. Now I do the exact same thing but when I try and draw up the liquid I cant get any of it to go into the syringe its impossible. The syringes I have are 31 gauge and are smaller then ones I have used before could thins possibly be the reason I cant draw anything up? or is there some sort of anit abuse that was added to these m 4's? im really at a loss please if anyone can help me out here I would greatly appreciate it!

[Ineedtherightanswers]

I figured out the problem the M 4 dilaudids have two more active ingredients in them then the ones I was getting I was for months getting ones that said 54196 on one side and a 4 on the other those ones are Roxane labratory made and they are the best very easy to prep draw up and shoot but these m 4's suck I cant get them in the syringe at all because I think its the two extra active ingredients : (