Adderall Extraction and Purification

[Kontrol]

WARNING: If you are going to say "just eat em" or "just rail that shit". Please don't waste my time. HOWEVER, if you have something to add to the process or a suggestion then by all means....

WARNING: This is a work in progress. Please do not try this if you aren't willing to lose some drugs. I will remove this statement when all research has been completed.


I just tried an Adderall purification method and I came out with what appeared to be white crystals and possibly near pure amphetamines. I am by no means a chemist, so take it easy on me.

The process:

01. Open capsules and crush with morter and pedestal.

02. Heat some distilled water to about 150 degrees. This will make the water more soluble with the amphetamines. You can also use Ethanol although I probably wouldn't heat it.

03. Get 2 coffee filters, put them together and dampen them with distilled water (This will make less material clump onto the filters).

04. Get a Pyrex dish or some other non-porus glassware. It is important that it is flat with decent surface area (This will allow the water to evaporate more quickly).

05. Get a small metal funnel or something similar and place the filters (step 3) on/in it.

06. Dump your powder onto the coffee filters that are in the funnel.

07. Hold the funnel over the Pyrex dish and slowly pour or drip the heated water (step 2) over the powder that is in your coffee filter that is in your funnel. You don't need much (someone have a good amps to water ratio number?).

08. A white milky solution should be covering the bottom of your Pyrex dish. Mine looked just slightly more watery than skim milk.

09. Heat your oven to 250 degrees (I believe the melting point for amphetamines is 300 degrees).

10. Stick the Pyrex dish in and evaporate the water.

11. Scrape your amphetamines up. Enjoy!

If you wanted to add another step to further the purification process you could do another filter with a non solvent to wash impurities that are soluble. Supposedly amphetamines are NOT soluble in acetone (so they would be left IN the filter). All solution steps need to be run separate.

I tried this with a very small amount. If you have extra Adderall and willing to try this I would be interested in seeing your results.

COLLECTED DATA THUS FAR:

The inactive ingredients in Adderall and what they are soluble/insoluble in:

IR:

LACTITOL (alcohol sugar) - water/???
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE (sand? wtf.) - ???/water, ethanol
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE (milk sugar) - water/???
MAGNESIUM STEARATE - hot alcohol/water, ether
MICROCRYSTALLINE CELLULOSE - slightly in water/???
PREGELATINIZED STARCH - water/cold water

XR:

hydroxypropyl methylcellulose - slightly in water/???
methacrylic acid copolymer (rapid disintegrator/Thermoplastic) - ???/???
opadry beige - ???/???
sugar spheres - water/ether
talc - dilute mineral acids/water
triethyl citrate (citric acid) -water(65 g/L)/???

So it would seem using just water in this procedure would be a close to complete failure as I am reading now that amphetamine is only SLIGHTLY soluble in water, and getting rid of only the magnesium stearate and possibly the microcrystalline cellulose. :\ Ethanol or iso alcohol seems the most likely candidate at the moment, however this is untested.

[Anonymous]

Nice write up, but yeah it is important to note this won't actually result in a completely pure end product (but definitely more pure than crushed pills), as amphetamine isn't the only chemical in the pill that's soluble in water. Regarding the acetone wash idea, yeah that would definitely be a great way to remove some of the fillers. Another solvent that you can use similarly to water is ethanol. If you were to want to use multiple solvents you need to use each solvent individually (or at least as many of them as you can); mixing them together would just prevent each from filtering out the impurities the other doesn't. If you really wanted a true extraction with pure amphetamine as an end result you would probably have to do an acid/base extraction, though if you used all three of these solvents independently you would probably get a really nice end product.

[blueeyes27]

How much is extra? Like 20 30 mg caps? Will end product be safely smokable?

[Kontrol]

I didn't try to smoke it blueeyes27, but I don't see why not if you have removed all of the junk.

Anonymous, I have some closed to pure ethanol. I'll try that next.

[Kontrol]

Sorry for double post, but according to Erowid:

Mobile liquid. Amine odor. Acrid, burning taste. Vola tilizes slowly at room temp, d25/4 0.913. bp760, 200-203°; bp13 82-85°. Slightly soluble in water; sol in alc, ether; readily sol in acids. Aq solns are alkaline to litmus. LD50 in rats (mg/kg): 180 s.c. (Warren, Werner).

SO - I am assuming this means amps are most soluble in acids? I understand that your body should be alkaline so the amps are better metabolized, but this might have something to do with how the digestive system works.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I just realized that it depends on the form on the amphetamine. The sulfate is more soluble in water. I don't have a clue about the saccharate and the aspartate monohydrate.

EDIT #2: http://bulkpharm.mallinckrodt.com/_a...msds/DXPTS.htm indicates the saccharate is soluble in water.

[Frequency]

Great write up Kontrol.
I think i'll try this within the next couple of weeks.

Is there any substitute i could use for the petri dish? Maybe a small glass cup?

Also, how many crushed up pills did you use? Would the generic amphetamine salt pills work?

[Kontrol]

For testing I used only 3 x 20mg generics, as I don't have a replacement source for my script.

You can use a glass cup depending on the amount you are working with. You want the thickness of the solution to be as little as possible to shorten evaporation time. I would wait until I have further time to research this because it seems that water is not the best way to do this as most (not all) of the inactives are also soluble in water.

[blueeyes27]

So u actually got something out of 2 20 mg pills? Was it >.2?

[Kontrol]

I didn't weigh it (don't have a scale), but the loss was minimal, I would say I got at least 40mg out of 3 x 20mg pills. but as you can see from my further inclusions that I probably only eliminated about half of the inactive ingredients (SILICON DIOXIDE and MAGNESIUM STEARATE). Using cold water could yield better results.

[Socially Inept]

So does the end product get you a lot more fucked up then just snorting a regular pill? Keep in mind that I have never done adderall and don't really plan to, but I read your whole write up and it's pretty interesting. I'm just curious if going thru the whole process is worth it (like you get way more high on the pure amphetamines) or is it just something you can do if you chose to get get rid of all the other shit in the pills and just have a "pure" amphetamine substance..?

[RobotPoop]

I dunno, I would think the comeup might be a bit quicker making the peak a bit higher but I can't see this whole process significantly increasing the quality of the high enough to justify the time spent doing all this.

Although that is just conjecture as I have never done it. I'd like to see someone else's reports that have tried this in addition to Kontrol's.

[Anonymous]

I dunno, I would think the comeup might be a bit quicker making the peak a bit higher but I can't see this whole process significantly increasing the quality of the high enough to justify the time spent doing all this.

The powder is generally relatively easy on the nose, but when railing 60mg or so the sheer quantity of shit going up there can get really annoying. That's enough of a reason to do it for me.

[euphoriCA]

Can you do an acetone wash for ecstasy? so it would filter out the filler in the pill and leave the MDMA?

[RobotPoop]

The powder is generally relatively easy on the nose, but when railing 60mg or so the sheer quantity of shit going up there can get really annoying. That's enough of a reason to do it for me.

I suppose so but I still don't think I'd do it just for the fact that I'm sure there is some of the amphetamine salts lost to the process. Mostly likely a small amount but still, I'm a stickler for getting exactly what I paid for haha. Especially with regard to drugs. I also never really bump adderall so I guess that factors largely into my thoughts on the subject.

Even still though, I could blow down 3 20 mg IR addys lickety split. So I wouldn't do it either way. But if snorting is particularly aggravating for whatever reason I could certainly see this as being a worthwhile endeavor.

[Anonymous]

I suppose so but I still don't think I'd do it just for the fact that I'm sure there is some of the amphetamine salts lost to the process. Mostly likely a small amount but still, I'm a stickler for getting exactly what I paid for haha. Especially with regard to drugs. I also never really bump adderall so I guess that factors largely into my thoughts on the subject.

Even still though, I could blow down 3 20 mg IR addys lickety split. So I wouldn't do it either way. But if snorting is particularly aggravating for whatever reason I could certainly see this as being a worthwhile endeavor.

Yeah, losing drug is definitely worth consideration. I'd probably give it a try though, and if I think the loss is negligible I'd be OK with doing it again in the future. Regarding snorting problems, anything less than two 30mg xr's at once is not a problem, but starting right around at that dosage is where I run out of sinus space and I get powder shooting down my throat and into my windpipe, immediately causing coughing/gagging. I've never snorted an ir before so I don't know if that'd be better, but the xr's definitely cause problems for me if I'm snorting enough of it.

[doublestaxx]

The IR's burn like a bitch and fuck with my sinuses. I sneezed blue snot all over myself during a test one time because I racked one of those fuckers.

[RobotPoop]

I never had any trouble with burning with the IRs. The blue snot though is rather disgusting though haha.

The IRs are great to sniff man, the pills are pretty brittle so they break up really fine with minimal effort.

[Illadelphian]

I hate bumping adderall, it seems really ineffective even using IRs.

[RobotPoop]

I hate bumping adderall, it seems really ineffective even using IRs.

I agree I almost exclusively eat it. I bumped it a couple times back when I first started fucking with it but quickly found it to be much more efficient and enjoyable eating it. Just my experience though. I know some people that almost exclusively honk it so go figure.

[Kontrol]

So anyone else tried this besides me? I am still waiting on my next script to try the extraction with ethanol. iso alcohol seems like a good candidate as well.

[Anonymous]

So anyone else tried this besides me? I am still waiting on my next script to try the extraction with ethanol. iso alcohol seems like a good candidate as well.

I haven't, and I definitely would if I were to get adderall again soon, but I'm actually about to get a bunch of this stuff called MDPV which I'm hoping can replace adderall. If it can't though and I get more adderall, I'll try some of the stuff here with a bunch of solvents and report back.

[blueeyes27]

Let me get through a few chem classes and then try. At this pt I can't even ace the chemical bonds unit...

[blueeyes27]

Idk where to get ether. What happens if I just crush it and wash it with acetone?

Nice write up, but yeah it is important to note this won't actually result in a completely pure end product (but definitely more pure than crushed pills), as amphetamine isn't the only chemical in the pill that's soluble in water. Regarding the acetone wash idea, yeah that would definitely be a great way to remove some of the fillers. Another solvent that you can use similarly to water is ethanol. If you were to want to use multiple solvents you need to use each solvent individually (or at least as many of them as you can); mixing them together would just prevent each from filtering out the impurities the other doesn't. If you really wanted a true extraction with pure amphetamine as an end result you would probably have to do an acid/base extraction, though if you used all three of these solvents independently you would probably get a really nice end product.

[blueeyes27]

I've got a ton of xr's but no privacy to expirement. I gave some to my friend and she says she crushed some up and smoked it in a cigg and felt hi for a few minutes but now her lungs just hurt. Ouch! Theoretically, is there a real simple way to purify xr for free basers or smokers? (I don't do drugs)

[Kontrol]

Idk where to get ether. What happens if I just crush it and wash it with acetone?

amphetamines are supposedly NON-soluble in acetone.

[Falc]

I gave some to my friend and she says she crushed some up and smoked it in a cigg and felt hi for a few minutes but now her lungs just hurt.

That was stupid, I hope she learned her lesson.

[Socially Inept]

I've got a ton of xr's but no privacy to expirement. I gave some to my friend and she says she crushed some up and smoked it in a cigg and felt hi for a few minutes but now her lungs just hurt. Ouch! Theoretically, is there a real simple way to purify xr for free basers or smokers? (I don't do drugs)

You don't do drugs but you want to purify adderall so you can have pure amphetamine to smoke? Why don't you just snort it? You say you have no privacy, but at some point during the day you have to be alone in a bathroom somewhere. I'm just sayin

[Ahkei]

You don't do drugs but you want to purify adderall so you can have pure amphetamine to smoke? Why don't you just snort it? You say you have no privacy, but at some point during the day you have to be alone in a bathroom somewhere. I'm just sayin

Sounds like she might be a chem student or something.

Shits mad fun to fuck with, y'dig? You know, like experimentin' for the OP.

[Socially Inept]

Sounds like she might be a chem student or something.

Shits mad fun to fuck with, y'dig? You know, like experimentin' for the OP.

Oh man, I don't do uppers.. I've never done an adderall, actually.. I'd probably try it if it were available, just to see what all the hype is about.. but my circle of friends usually only has opiates so I stick with them

[Kontrol]

Tested the method with room temperature ethanol. Got a similar end product, but less 'fluffier' and more solid, which makes me think that the ethanol is a better 'solution' (LOLZ).

Also, much more material was left in the filter with ethanol vs H20.

Next try will be with 90% isopropyl alcohol.