Alright, I have two questions.
1. what would be the way to store a good amount of weed for a long period of time?
2. How dangerous is it to ship edibles?
two questions
Alright, I have two questions.
1. what would be the way to store a good amount of weed for a long period of time?
2. How dangerous is it to ship edibles?
1. In airtight containers in a dark, cool, and dry place. Freezers, are actually really good for *extended* periods. For shorter periods I use the glass jars with good rubber gaskets.
2. It's not a great idea, it is a felony. If you are going to do it, this is hypothetically how I would. Don't ship a lot and make it look legit. Vacuum seal at least once and slap a fake label on it (so it looks like it's legit from a company). Put it in a box. Make up a fake return address for the fake company you made up. Ship United States Postal Service, ground, and waive the recipient signature. DO NOT SHIP THROUGH UPS OR FEDEX, etc.
1. Those mason jars you can get at markets work really well. I'm pretty sure those are the jars jesusfish is referring to. If things start to dry out, you can put an orange peel in the jar for a few days to hydrate things a bit.
2. Pretty dangerous. I'm pretty sure if your shipping across state boarders, its a federal offense and thus far more illigal than shipping within, say, california. Can't say I haven't done it though.
All other posts regarding mailing should be disregarded besides ^^ that one and the small bit I have to add on.Originally Posted by jesusfish
If you are worried pay the money to send express overnight. They guarantee delivery the next day meaning you can sue their asses if it's not. They bust ass to get those express packs delivered by the time they say they will. Not enough time for people to inspect your pack thoroughly. Not like your pack would get inspected thoroughly with any method sent USPS. If you follow JF's instructions I would agree yes it's not a great idea because it is a felony but no it's not pretty dangerous. Pretty dangerous is attempting to rob a pharmacy with no mask or gloves or at least a hoody on.
well I was wondering if like dogs could detect the THC in the edible?
Yes. Obviously. Why would a dog be sniffing your pack? They don't call in the dogs unless they suspect it and want to get a warrant to open it. If you follow me and jesusfishs' advice, this won't happen. Plus, that's why you vacuum seal it. Or double vacuum seal it. Go to Walmart and get a vacuum sealer.
Don't ship more than 3 edibles per pack. If a pack is over a certain weight (do not know the exact weight) it becomes further scrutinized. You want it to blend in with the system. You will be OK with 3 edibles per pack.
That's why you vacuum seal the package...
stick your weed in a big jar and throw in a little piece of orange peel. that'll keep it moist forever. it's awesome.
i wouldn't ship edibles. i mean, the worst case is they just throw it away.
"Did i take LSD? Oh i forgot"
"SLOW THE WINDOWS DOWN!!!"
While introducing a fruit peel, lettuce, damp paper towel, etc will make dry weed moist, if you leave it in there for too long you're asking for mold.
No, worst case is you get busted for shipping an illegal substance.
Vacuum sealing things does do a pretty good job of keeping the odor in there, but it isn't perfect. Dogs can sometimes smell what is in vacuum sealed bags. Also, while they would certainly still be able to smell the weed from edibles, they won't smell it as well. You have a better shot of getting past them with edibles than regular weed.
Yeah, but this is pretty unlikely if you use a false return name and address.
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You seem to be offering a lot of assumptions rather than any actual knowledge. What on earth makes you think that a dog trained to detect minute particles of THC has a more difficult time with something inside food? Everything I've read suggests that canines detect component smells rather than a conglomeration of smells due to the remarkable number of receptors in comparison to a human. i.e., you smell a pizza, a dog smells tomato, olive oil, dough, etc.
Perhaps a better analogy would be what you can see without glasses, and what your grandmother can see without glasses. You see objects, grandma sees a blurry mess. Except you're the grandmother and the dog's the human.
"You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts." ~Moynihan
Any airtight container will do. In the freezer if you want to keep it good for a real long time. I wouldn't bother with orange peels, as the risk of mold isn't worth it imo.
I've had friends ship them 2 or 3 at a time by overnight shipping without getting caught, but like shipping most illegal products, the risk (however large or small) seems pretty daunting. If you do decide to ship things, keep the package light, quick, and sealed as well as you can. Vacuum sealing is a good choice, and you can never go overboard on containing it so long as the package keeps light enough to avoid too much inspection. Not something I'd risk personally, but if you really want to for some reason, there you go.2. How dangerous is it to ship edibles?
I suppose you are right if they are trained to only smell for THC, but I had the impression that they smelled for any unique scent associated with cannabis.
Imagine you took every ingredient from weed that gave it its smell and put it out on a table. Then, on another table, you put exactly all of the same things. But, remove from the second table any of the things that would be removed by an extraction. If the dog is looking for only THC, both tables would be just as likely as each other to smell like it, if the dog's recognition of the odor as weed comes down to smelling something other than THC (say the THC odor is too subtle to smell, which is possible), the dog is more likely to smell one of the other odors when smelling weed than when smelling something that has less of those odors than weed does.
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When the feds are knocking on your friends door or do a controlled delivery you will see how far your fake return name and address gets you. That dude will be snitching his guts out in 20 minutes.
On the other point, what legitimate edible doesn't have the faintest smell of weed? THC in it or not unless you used pure THC to make the edible the dog will be able to smell the weed in the edible. You know if you were touching weed hours before you packaged his shit the dog will smell it on whatever you touched?
Bottom line: If a dog is there in the first place, you are fucked. They bring in the dogs when they want a search warrant. If the dog is there you fucked up on something previously to get him there.
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Pretty sure they can't do a controlled delivery of it unless you sign for it, because if they just drop it off at your house and wait for you to get it you can just feign not knowing
In the mornin I pack up my gear, and toss it in my carryall..
How often do they really do this? I've heard of people just getting letters in the mail for stuff like this (but not weed).
I wasn't saying there would be no smell of weed, just less. Maybe that much less isn't enough to make a difference with whether or not a dog can smell it, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for any situation to exist in which that much less can make a difference.
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You should just roll over and play dead when its that blatantly obvious you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Seriously. You're not making any friends. Its pretty sad to watch you defending shit that you don't understand.
(p.s., letters are from customs, cheers)
"You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts." ~Moynihan
LL or "love letters" are letters from customs saying they took your shit. Drugs that warrant a DEA knock on the door internationally meaning you don't get a love letter, you're fucked: Heroin, cocaine, weed, LSD.
You don't get these letters for domestic mail.
There is a thread I posted recently in the drug related news forum about someone in Massachusetts having a controlled delivery done to them. It is the most common way the feds will bop you here. They won't just take your package and question you because of the fact that you can claim you knew nothing about it. They will drop the package off and raid your shit 20 minutes later when you've opened it, or pull you over after you picked it up from the post office.
Same here.
Well, the first thing I said was a question. I wasn't defending my opinion, I was wondering about something so I asked... And regarding the scent I was never trying to suggest that it might be practically applicable, just that it is an effect that is scientifically accurate, which it is.
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Oh? Cite your scientific source. Or at the absolute least, a source with some expertise concerning dogs.
"You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts." ~Moynihan
Less volatile material produces less vapors. Less scent producing vapor results in less sensation of smell. This is all I was saying; you really don't agree with this?
Spoiler for the difference:
While you have a valid point, a dog's sense of smell is so much better than a human's that the point is moot.
I dont know much about this topic but when I was in high school a dog came in and they hid tons of different drugs in the room one of which being a confiscated pot brownie wrapped in tin foil then saran wrap then put into two separate vaccum sealed bags and he found it instantly.
Sounds about right. Dogs can smell scents left on a package so while the smell may not be getting out of the package it may still smell like weed because of your hands, the surrounding, or improper washing / bag technique.
You're really banking on the fact that dogs are expensive and not used very often. This is why you ship things ground through the United States Postal Service. Shipping any other method is asking for more scrutiny.
That's exactly what Barry Cooper(ex-cop who made the video never get busted again) talked about a lot. He said you had to be exceptionally careful as to not get anything on the outside at all. Like anything because they will smell it. Anyone interested in any kind of marijuana shipping should watch the video and you will get a good idea of how everything works and he shows you how to beat dogs and everything else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR3926XKsDo
I don't know. If it was me I probably would not ship anything. Even taking all precautions the risk outweighs the reward in almost any reason I can think of to mail edibles.
But if I don't do it, den me an my bro arnt solid, man.
But more seriously I actually agree, the risk just isn't worth the potential reward.
legally they can't search your mail, if they were to find ANYTHING in your mail that was illegal, all they could do is discard it, and whoever was going to recieve it, wouldn't. that's it. no jail. they couldn't do shit.
"Did i take LSD? Oh i forgot"
"SLOW THE WINDOWS DOWN!!!"
Legally they can't search your mail without a warrant. No one was disputing this. They can bring in dogs to sniff the packages whenever the fuck they want. This is how they get warrants (there's a document I've posted about the USPS that actually says this is how they obtain warrants so I'm not talking out of my ass). If the dog reacts to anything, search warrant, they open your shit, you're fucked.
Let's stop talking out our asses no?
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