http://www.drugsandbooze.com/ DnB is a community engaged in harm reduction -- we do not condone drug use, but we do condone safer drug use if you make the individual decision to do so. We are dedicated to supporting safe decisions while also providing a safe harbor for people to exercise the right to free speech. en Mon, 20 May 2013 09:20:19 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/images/misc/rss.png http://www.drugsandbooze.com/ http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44936-Scoring-Xannie-Script-(the-process-lives)&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 08:03:51 GMT Yo --

So, I've been trying to get my hands on some Xanax (especially the bars). I've been to the doctor around (3) times I believe.

1st visit - left with & SSRI & a light benzo (lorazepam .5mg x60)

2nd visit- Told em' SSRI didn't work but the ativan was doing great - cause at that time I was just happy to get those and leave - but he up it to 90 pill of lorazepam .5mg

3rd visit - I saw nurse practioner that they worked but it didn't last long enough, left with no SSRI but I was upped to 90 1mg pills of ativan.

I've skipped around sometimes between visits and missed appointments due to funds. The doctor I see usually always helped me with the amount I paid since I was paying outta pocket - like I paid literally $20 - then the last time I had came in - the lady @ the front said I had to pay up this time and the doctor wasn't there so I didn't get help. So, I had to pay what I had and owe the rest. Then, @ second appointment nurse insisted I taked EKG test - even though I said I have no money - she said don't wrry it's cheap. Turned out to be $65 fucking dollars - I owe like $150 just to go back...

So, if I choose to go back to this doctor - I need him to hook me up if I'm going to pay that. I just feel like since I have a record here that dates back over a year - that this might be helpful. It's also a known fact that this doctor was dirty at one point. He literally wrote my friend 120 Xanax Bars every two weeks - and now he's slowed his roll.


Do I have a chance in hell to get them?

I've hear of a few probabele doctors - one I might go see - and I've always wondered what If I if I tell them I was on let's say (4) 1mg Xanax and me and my doctor had previously talked about moving to 2mg tablets that are XR cause the others wear off too quick. I mean I hope he at least give me some Klonopin, and I don't mean 60 .50 mg ones...

Do you guys think I have a shot? I've tried several SSRI's, and only been prescribed the ativan - it seems like there is no way to move from 90 1mg Ativan to 90 1 or 2mg pills...

What do you guys think, plus I just got in a car wreck, my grandmother died & I was in a huge car crash two weeks ago...

So, what's you guys opinion on this - I tired a random doctor a month or so back - and even took in my lorezepam bottle showed him, told him it didnt last long enough and was trying to see if he'd at least give me KPINS -- but I picked the worse doc to try that with - he went on about how benzo were addicted and he had held a concerence w/ several psychiatrist or whatever and they said if he ever does a benzo, to do tenazepam that it's safe...

Then, he reached for the pad and started wriiting it - i just cut him off and was like - I am gonna need the Ativan, they work for me. He agreed.

When I finally looked @ the script while in the pharmacy - I noticed the fucker cut me BACK not foward and wrote me for 60 just because he thought I should do it his ways $100 gone - for 60 ativan...

The first doctor, I know he's dirty - Ive read online way back before it got deleted on a review site for doctors - someone wrote - - he always ask me what I want and I get the goodies.

He even gave my home girl 60 1mg kpins her very first try.

So, I'm wonderng if this will be a waste or not or what should I do?

My aunt has anxiety and gets bars - I almost want to tell him that she told me that's what she takes & that it's the best thing for it - but that be too seeker status huh?

I am just trying to make something happen, for a while - I will take weaker scripts - I really wanna get an ass load of meds no matter how I have to go to or how lengthy the process. I know dude, that just fuck nitches, smoke weed, pop a pill & make insane money because they manage to get a tall lortab script, xanax, adderall, -- shit...

So, what your guys ideas about? Is the lie about another doctor be a good idea or dumb? Should I mention my aunt say that we had a talk -- and then ask for it by name.

thanks yo ]]> Ups and Downs Cobb http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44936-Scoring-Xannie-Script-(the-process-lives) http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44935-Confused&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 01:07:37 GMT Hey everyone please say hi sick of shit Hey everyone please say hi sick of shit ]]> Introductions confused http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44935-Confused http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44931-Im-very-hurt-by-this-(-please-help-me!&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 04:21:52 GMT What would you do and how would you feel if you had a friend or family member who you would invite let's say downtown or to the movies and mcdonalds or to the buffet and you pay for everything you do with them and then they claim that they don't have any money but yet they take another person out like to the mall or to mcdonalds with their (secret money) and treat them as if they were their mom or their best friend.. I'm soooooooo tired of this happening between me and my cousin and there was a 16th birthday which a girl invited us and she said the girl was going to give her the address and she was going to text me when she got it so Isend her a message saying if she didn't reply with the message we should go downtown... then Isee her 5 minutes before this question saying " we got there a little late but we had fun tho" and she tagged a bunch of people... goddamn it Ifucking hate this should Ihate her in a subliminal way by not inviting her anywhere again or what is ur opinion????? ]]> Ups and Downs leobaez123 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44931-Im-very-hurt-by-this-(-please-help-me! http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44930-Im-very-hurt-by-this-(&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 03:23:09 GMT What would you do and how would you feel if you had a friend or family member who you would invite let's say downtown or to the movies and mcdonalds or to the buffet and you pay for everything you do with them and then they claim that they don't have any money but yet they take another person out like to the mall or to mcdonalds with their (secret money) and treat them as if they were their mom or their best friend.. I'm soooooooo tired of this happening between me and my cousin and there was a 16th birthday which a girl invited us and she said the girl was going to give her the address and she was going to text me when she got it so Isend her a message saying if she didn't reply with the message we should go downtown... then Isee her 5 minutes before this question saying " we got there a little late but we had fun tho" and she tagged a bunch of people... goddamn it Ifucking hate this should Ihate her in a subliminal way by not inviting her anywhere again or what is ur opinion????? ]]> General Discussion leobaez123 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44930-Im-very-hurt-by-this-( http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44929-Question-for-Oxy-User-Splitting-Oxycontin-Tablets&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 02:09:37 GMT I have Oxycontin questions. I have an Oxy 80 but that's too large a dose for me. If I cut into quarters this gives me four 20's right? There'd be no slow release, so it'd be like taking 20mg Oxycodone? Is it that simple? All I can find is propaganda saying 'do not cut, chew, or crush,' but it seems this is only if you plan on taking the whole pill as it would hit you all at once and this could be dangerous.
Would such a warning apply if I'm only taking a quarter of it?

Some say the slow release is built into the drug chemistry, some say it's in the coating.

Also, any suggestions for testing pills authenticity? I have a couple testing kits I got from Dance.org which I haven't tried out yet, but I'm wondering if it's common for pills to look like oxys, etc, but actually be self-pressed poison. If the pill looks right, and has the right markings what are the chances it's fake?

Are there black-market pill presses out there that make pills that look like the genuine pharmaceuticals, but are actually baking powder or rat poison? Or, if they're going to poison you do they at least give you the courtesy of making the pill look conspicuously fake? ]]> Opiates arssonist http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44929-Question-for-Oxy-User-Splitting-Oxycontin-Tablets http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44928-Morphine-sulfate-recreational-dose&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 02:00:26 GMT Hey I came across morphine tablets with imprint 54 262 and 30mg. I'm a semi experienced opiate user with a tolerance painkillers should I just take 30mg now and take 30mg an hour later? I also don't know what way is the best to administer the drug? this is my first experience with morphine. ]]> Opiates Faded http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44928-Morphine-sulfate-recreational-dose http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44927-Xanax-Hydrocodone-combination&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 22:49:07 GMT Hey guys. I'm not newbie when it comes to either hydrocodone or xanax, but I have my reservations about mixing the two.

I'm taking hydrocodone for pain relating to gallstones, and will be having surgery in the next week or two to have my gallbladder removed. I'm taking one hydrocodone 5/500 every 4 hours, with an occasional booster for breakthrough pain. My surgeon has instructed me to quit smoking tobacco before my surgery, as that along with some other factors (my weight and other health problems) increases my chances of reacting negatively to the anesthesia.

I'm about 24 hours off cigarettes, and while I am using lozenges to curb nicotine cravings I'm still having a lot of problems with anxiety and depression. A friend of mine told me he used xanax to help him quit, they really calmed the powerful surges of anxiety to that come in the first 72 hours, and he has offered me some 0.5 xannies to help keep me from going absolutely bonkers.

I have a high tolerance to benzos, and I'm not taking that much hydrocodone ... but I'm still a bit nervous about mixing them. I'm about 5'7 and weigh 300lbs.

I know I'll probably be just fine, but I wanted to check with some people who Know Their Shit. I'm scared and nervous and depressed and all over the place, here.

Thanks for listening! Peace.

-TheCoyote ]]> General Drug Discussion TheCoyote http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44927-Xanax-Hydrocodone-combination http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44926-E-at-a-stones-concert&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 15:43:20 GMT I'm going to a Rolling Stones concert next weekend with one of my buds and its a good chance that we'll be getting some e. it's going to be our first time, just wondering if it's going to be worth it. I love the stones but I heard e is only good for listening to like hip hop and dance music. Any tips for some first timers? ]]> Ecstasy - MD** Substances motor_angel http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44926-E-at-a-stones-concert http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44923-New-kid-on-the-DNB-com-block!&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 02:40:04 GMT What's up everyone, my name is Mark and I'm 24 yrs old. This site is awesome...finally, a place to get REAL WORLD info on legal/illegal drug's recreational applications. Also, without being too corny, I think these forums could save lives when it comes to posts about mixing different intoxicants and the dangers of doing so. A brief drug history on myself: started smoking pot when I was 13 (still continue to), alcohol came in around 16 but booze never really got my rocks off, around 17 I was introduced to cocaine and had a 2 yr love affair with that resulting in my first stint in rehab. At age 19, after rehab, I was in a bad car accident resulting in a prescription to oxycodone and its all been downhill from there. My opiate use progressed into a life shattering addiction that lead me to rehab a few more times, but somehow the pills always found a way back to me, or I to them rather. July 2012 was the last time I went to rehab, since then I've fought tooth and nail with relapse, depression and anxiety. I will say that I've done better this last year than the previous 5 but Im ready to be done with the shit. It seems contradictory that I join this site now but my reason for joining is to be able to share my experiences with different substances, not to deter anyone (im not ur mom), but to offer any information I can to keep younger/newer users safer. I took opiate addiction about as far as a human being can without dying, I'm not proud of that but it happend so if I can do any kind of good with it, I'm cool with that. So I hope other people on this site utilize my knowledge for what its worth and know that anything I have to say comes from my own personal experience. Drugs that I'm intimately familiar with: marijuana, cocaine (hard and soft), hallucinogenic mushrooms (one of my favs in HS), Dextroamphetamine (adderal/vivance), Xanax and valium, ecstasy (rolls/Molly), Opiates (oxycodone, oxymorphone, morphine, delaudid, and Heroin). I do have experience with IV drug use if anyone needs any info. I'm not experienced in LSD or Methamphetamine. Thanks everyone ]]> Introductions mm6481 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44923-New-kid-on-the-DNB-com-block! http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44919-wutup&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 05:23:41 GMT Wutup.. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile now and I finally got around to regestering. DOC are opiates seems like its the thjng to do now adays. I've been struggling with this nightmare for 4 years now... it was fun at first but before I realized it I was hooked. I went on a three year run with vics and slowly graduated to oxys. First time I ever took a vic I wondered where was this all my life. It was the best feeling ever. But 1 turned into 2 then 3 and after that I lost complete control taking up to 15 10/325 watsons a day for breakfast lunch n dinner. But it got to the point where they didn't even get me high anymore... so I graduated to the OP80S. one would keep me high alll day but again tolerance grew and I got up to taking 5 80s a day... well finally after three years of that shit I got sixk n tired of being sick n tired.. so I let my family know about my little secret not knowing how they'd take it but I was honeslty was at my wits end.. thankfully my mom
Understood and she helpd me check into a detox clinic.. it honestly wasn't that bad with the kick meds they gave me.. I felt great after seven days, clean for the first time in three years.. so my dumbass thought I could go out and grab the bull by the horns again and be productive and reaponsable n wut not. Boy was I wrong... the same day I got out I went n got high... but this time I graduated to heroin.. see wut my mom and girlfriend and know else knows is that on the third day of my detox my roomy had some black tar that he was smoking and I couldn't resist after seeing him nod off into the heavens. So I asked if I could hit that. He regretfully let me and warned me not to get strung out it. I told him it was a one time thing. Boy was I wrong.. the same day I got out of detox I called him up n picked up a dub. I finally get clean and now 4 months later in chasing the dragon every fuckin day... I regret the first day I ever took opiates.. this has has ruined my life and I just don't know how to stop. Well actually I'm broke as fuck n now I have no choice but to come clean again. Todays day 3 n I feel like ripping my arms off. I honestly hope I never touch this nasty shit again. But that voice in my head loves it sooo muchi can't control it. Pretty much a prisoner in my own body.. well that's my sad story thx for reading to those that have. N to anyone who hasn't messed with opiates, please keep it that way. It is fun at first but thia shit will turn on you and one day you'll wake up and say what the fuck why do I feel like this.. . Its honestly not worth it and you'll have to live the rest of your life with that temptation in your mind. I think that what fux with me, is knowing if I do finally beat this the thought of going out n scoring a bag will be in the back of my head for the rest of my life. Its not worh it... ]]> Introductions christrp89 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44919-wutup http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44918-Throwing-the-towel-in-need-some-advice-regarding-suboxone!&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 05:06:12 GMT Hello DnB, I have posted here in the past but that was over a year ago, and have been a constant lurker for about 18 months. I started experimenting... Hello DnB, I have posted here in the past but that was over a year ago, and have been a constant lurker for about 18 months. I started experimenting with opiates right after I graduated high school, taking about one or two 5/325 norcos twice a week max. I am now finishing my second year in college, and my use has only gotten larger. I have "quit" opiates 4 or 5 times during these past 2 years, though it would only last a month or so. For the last ~9 months I have taken opiates EVERY day, except for three or 4 times where I ran out and had to experience 3 day cold turkey withdrawals. Currently I take about 160mg Oxy a day. I am becoming broke. My grades in college has suffered. I have done sketchy things to get my fix and I only fear of what is to come if I continue this road. I'm ready to call it done, as I'm only 20 years old but already have a life-controlling addiction.

Since I have experienced withdrawals before, I know what I'm in for, though I do believe this time will be worse than the previous times. I go on vacation starting May 24th and would prefer to be through with the main withdrawal before I go so that I can actually enjoy it.

In order to make withdrawal bearable, in my possession I have:
9 X 10/325 Norcos
Large bottle of loperamide
2mg Xanax
5 X 10mg Ambien
5 X 100mg Darvocets
4 X 8mg Suboxone film strips
A great multivitamin, + nutrient rich protein powder
Easy access to OTC meds
Access to a gym, with sauna + steam room

My main question is, how should I plan out my withdrawal? I will consume my last dose of Oxy this Friday 5/17, in the afternoon. I want to keep dosing during my last few finals so that I don't have to worry about becoming sick.

If my last oxy dose is Friday evening, when should I take my first suboxone strip? Saturday evening, or sunday morning?
Since I only have 32mg Sub available and little access to any more, how should I taper it?

What is a good mock withdrawal schedule? Is this sufficient:
Saturday (day one of no opiate): no meds. Gym to keep busy. Melatonin for sleep, ambien if needed.
Sunday: 4mg sub in AM, 4mg sub PM. Xanax during day for any anxiety.
Monday: 2mg sub AM, 2mg sub PM. repeat ^

Will I even need the loperamide, if I have the subs? Should i try to use the norcos I have left before I use the subs (aka norcos on day one instead of starting subs)

How will suboxone make me feel? It will stop all the physical symptoms, but how does it affect someone mentally, IE their cravings?

Anything and everything you type up will be appreciated! ]]> Breaking the Habit Ski3 http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44918-Throwing-the-towel-in-need-some-advice-regarding-suboxone! http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44917-The-best-way-to-detox-with-little-pain-from-Opiates*&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 03:19:59 GMT If you are getting ready to detox from opiates such as Perc, OC/OP's, suboxone etc than try this. It saved my life!!!! and I was working on day 2 (waitressing)!
I was up to a habit of back and forth opiates (40-50mgs a day) and Suboxone on my off days or when I was just flat broke.
Stock up on these simple things and feel good by day 2-3.

Things you need:
-Goodies powders
-Potassium
-Magnesium
-Unisom Sleeping Aid or Zzzquil
-St. Jons Wort (Mood stablilizer vitamin)
-Vitamin B2/B6
-Robottosun
-Immodium or Equate brand
-A will & drive to do this... because despite what you have read.. you CAN!!!

Ok depending on the half life of your drug is when you will start to withdrawal. Op/Oc's half life is 4.5 hours. Perc IR is around 3.5 hours. Suboxone on the other hand is about 12 hours. Once you begin to feel the withdrawals on day 1 you should immediately take 8 OTC immodium tablets or soft gels. Trust me this will NOT hurt you what so ever. The Lopermadide (spell check) binds to the receptors in our brain that the Opiates grew and attached to. So once your body needs those receptors filled before we usually took a pill. SO we are actually tricking our brain right now and it is to ONLY be used for days 1-3. To most peoples surprise you still will be able to go to the bathroom by the end of day 1. You then want to take 2 Potassium & 2 Magnesium. After that try to eat a small meal.. even if its just soup.. and then take 1-2 St. Jons Wort.. it will REALLY help your mood. The potassium helps TREMENDOUSLY with the restless leggs and muscle tightness and discomfort. Magnesium helps with energy as well as Muscle and Nerve function. When you are experiencing Opiate withdrawal it is actually an attack on your Central Nervous system.. causing sweats and cold chills.. depression and body aches. You then can begin to take your b12/b6 vitamins. One key thing here (as hard as it is and as much as you DONT want to) it helps SOOOOO much to get excersising. Whether you go to the Y and sit in the Suana and swim some laps or if you take a walk or a little jog. 30 mins after you being excerising your brain starts to release the Endorphins that your body STOPPED making when you were using. So we want those to start producing ASAP because they are what makes us feel happy. 3 ways to produce those: Chocolate (short lasting) Orgasim & excercise. Take your pick and begin to do that 2-3 times a day.. even if its only for 10 mins.. every bit helps. I also drank Vitamin water, Gateraid, Green Tea, and Grapefruit Juice. Apparently a chemical in GFruit Juice absorbs the last bit of medicine in your system and releases a tiny bit to ease the withdrawals. I took goodys powers about 3-4 times a day for aches and pains. Take a hot bath in the A.M and at night if you can. Now to sleep you will want to take 1 unisom sleeping aide. Its CRAZY but if you excercised you actually WILL sleep with this method. Just make sure that you have atleast 8-10 hrs to dedicate to sleep that evening so you do not feel groggy. This will get ya through day 1. Day 2 is pretty much the same as day 1 but you will try and take only 6 Immodium this day and 4 on day 3. Also the Robottussin has been proven (DO NOT TAKE IN DANGEROUS AMOUNTS I AM NOT CODEMMING THAT AT ALL I AM JUST TRYING TO SHARE WHAT HELPED ME) to produce a Eurphoria affect on the brain and can also cause you to feel happy during your withdrawal.You will want to take 1-2 doses of the Robotussin with the DXM component. I hope I can help ya'll. Also this is up to you but I found a station on TV called daystar or Trinity Broadcasting network- You can also watch in online. But finding my relationship with God has helped me also SO much. Also calling their help line for prayer REALLY gave me the peace and contentment that I needed with my choice to change my life. I never intended to use for 3 years but after getting my wisdom teeth pulled my brain was immediately addicted. I have been clean for 8 months and I have never been happier. I wanted to share my story. If you need anything feel free to message me! GOD BLESS! ]]> Breaking the Habit kellymarieblessed_free http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44917-The-best-way-to-detox-with-little-pain-from-Opiates* http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44915-Bowling-Green-State-University-Researchers-Looking-for-Volunteers&goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 20:33:06 GMT Bowling Green State University Researchers Looking for Volunteers: Bowling Green State University Researchers Looking for Volunteers: ]]> General Drug Discussion JLH_BG http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44915-Bowling-Green-State-University-Researchers-Looking-for-Volunteers http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44913-New-and-trying-to-get-clean!&goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 02:36:26 GMT Hello, this is my first thread on this site as I just made an account and decided to share after a few years of consistently lurking this website. I... Hello, this is my first thread on this site as I just made an account and decided to share after a few years of consistently lurking this website. I can say I have learned quite a bit from all the people who post on here. Today I decided enough is enough and went to a local addiction specialist that I was referred to. I have been abusing opiate pain killers for a little over 3 years now. Mainly Norco and lortab unless I was lucky to find roxys or even percs. I would occasionally dabble into Xanax and aderoll but my doc was most def. opiates. Most of my relationships are fucked, finances depleted, and all the other shit I don't need to go into detail about as many of you already know what the lifestyle brings with it. At the end I was taking 30-40 Norco/lortab a day to get right. I have tried inpatient treatment twice since January. The first I only lasted 8 days until I said fuck this and the second I lasted the full 30 days only to come home and relapse immediately. Honestly, I felt decent after 30 days of treatment but using was on my mind the whole time in treatment. I picked up as soon as I got home and everything was swell for the first week. The rest is history. Same old bullshit I knew was going to happen but couldn't resist the urge. Luckily I have no legal issues which I am really happy about.

I realize that subs might be my only option at this point. I WANT to quit. The fuckin urge to use is so intense however that I don't know what else to do. The doc said he wants me to be on the subs for at least a year. He put me on a 12mg starting dose. Atm I feel fine. I have doing research and many people say that anything over 8mg of a dose is too much for ANYONE. For you people who are on suboxone, what do you guys think? Is 12mg too high of a dose? Should I take less to see how it works? And my last question is what are your opinions on the duration of suboxone treatment? Is 1 year too long?

He also gave me a sheet of IOP programs in my area in which he said I need to attend. I am willing to go to NA meetings but not an IOP program because I do not have the money for it nor do I have the time to go to a 3-hour class 3 times a week to learn shit I already learned in my previous treatments. I don't know how it is in other states, but when I used to live in Florida suboxone was not an issue to be prescribed. I had a few friends who were on it. In Michigan, it was a fuckin hassle. They took my blood, urine, and even did an EKG??? They also wanted to do a chest xray which I refused because I had been at the office for 4 hours and they wanted me to wait until the xray tech came in which was who knows when.

Sorry for the rant guys!! I would appreciate some replies but will understand if nobody wants to read the fucking book I just wrote LOL. ]]> Breaking the Habit *tgod* http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44913-New-and-trying-to-get-clean! http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44910-stoned-video-chat&goto=newpost Tue, 14 May 2013 04:12:47 GMT is there any website where stoners can log on and video chat with one or multiple other people smoking? i recently moved and don't know anyone within 8000 miles and im missing that connection you get when you get high with people. i know theres a lot of ways of meeting people and going out and finding people to smoke with but i thought the internet would be cool. has anyone ever heard of anything like this or think its a cool idea. ]]> The Hot Box alexm.23b http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?44910-stoned-video-chat