Tylenol/COD #4?

[bigyeah]

Does anyone know the difference between Tylenol Codeine #4 compared with Tylenol Codeine #3. I heard that there is absolutely no difference. Is this true? Is one stronger than the other?

[JimmyB]

i hate codeine, it makes me itch


-my drunken two cents

[phil]

ummmm

the 4 is stonger...?

dur.

drugs like that come in 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s. 3s are common, 4s are rare for tylenol/codeine.

and dont take that as a drug man. too muchaceetrophein (spelled wrong for sure) will mess you up. just find something thats just codeine.

[strummerkid]

I am not familiar with Tylenol's myself, but i believe 4's are stronger. Read the box/bottle and get your desired dose worth of pills, then do a cold water extraction on the codeine, much nicer to your liver, be safe.

-Liam

[Victor Of Eons]

Take into consideration that T3 and I assume 4 have alot of acetaminophen per small codien dose. And acetam OD causes liver failure, and that's a painful death.

[TimboBandit]

Just extract the codiene. A Cold-water extraction in very, very easy.

[bigyeah]

i take it as medication. I was asked what i want to take #4 and #3 the doctor said there is no difference but i did not believe him. So 4 is stronger? a lot?

[phil]

dude. like i said its like this.

i dont know the actual numbers, so im kind of guessing and estimateing.

1s have 7mg of codiene.
2s have 15mg
3s have 30 mg
4s have 45 or 60 or something like that.

its something like that. ive never seen 4s. doctors dont give them out much.

[Mr.Bigs]

Just extract the codiene. A Cold-water extraction in very, very easy.


How do i do a cold-water extraction?

[phil]

YOU dont.

its possible, not not easy enough to get right with out knowing what you are doing. just smoke weed.

or just fucking buy some morpheine.

[Mr.Bigs]

well how hard is it?

[phil]

i dont know, ive never done it. its a scientific process man, its not building a homemade bong or something.

just buy morpheine.

[strummerkid]

Cold water extraction is amongst the easiest of things to do, easier than building a home made bong, of course there is science behind it, but there is science behind a bong too. A quik google search will find you what you need.

http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter11.html
http://codeine.50g.com/info/extraction.html

theres some links for you.

[Mr.Bigs]

does a cold water extract have anything to do with needles?


Also is this extracting dangerous in any way?

[strummerkid]

No, once extracted, you drink the water containing the codeine, this is very bitter. Never shoot-up codeiene, from what i am led to believe, shooting up codeine will lead to a respiratory failure and you will suffocate.

[Pskov]

Nah, you can shoot it up, if you get it steril, and free of fillers, and blah blah blah blah.

Don't do it, if you don't feel like having a huge abcess and/or killing yourself, dose sizes are much different injected then orally.

Just remember, codeine is extremely addictive, and leads to a rather shitty life...

I recommend readind the addiction and recovery forums at www.poppies.org before you go real far with the whole opiate thing.

[JewJewBean]

woa this is cool.You can know get high on tylenol.Never thought of that.

[Mr.Bigs]

My dr. is one of the leading dr's in new york. He is in a number of magazines. He was part of the research of many major drugs. He says Codeine is not addictive. IT is habitual. you only have to weine off of it. This is my case. I only take 1-2 tablets daily for long term (years). Don't know how many mg's it takes to get fucked up off of it, but the DR said you will throw up before u overdose on it. That is all i know about the drug.



also what is the dosage to get fucked up off of codeine? is 60mg enough?

[PoisonTheHat]

woa this is cool.You can know get high on tylenol.Never thought of that.

Not just regular OTC Tylenol. It has to be Tylenol Codeine, which is only prescribed by doctors.

[Victor Of Eons]

i dont know, ive never done it. its a scientific process man, its not building a homemade bong or something.

just buy morpheine.

Just because it is a process, doesn't make it hard. It's one of the either extraction methods, wait till these kids find out about how to seperate salts with acid/base extractions.

Oops.

[Pskov]

Ummm....

codeine is an opiate, opiates are addictive.

Your docter didn't want to tell you that, because "addiction" is a drug problem, not something that happens with legal stuff (yeah, sure).

Coke is habitual, you can quit without ill effects.

Codeine is addictive, if you take lots for a while then quit, you experiance all sorts of lousy withdrawls.

Having to "weine" yourself off it is because of this addiction, it's how you get off opiates without withdrawls.

Go read those forums :P


I'm afraid he's wrong (or not telling you the full story, more likely) about the ODing as well, you may puke, but one of the main effects of opiates is to numb the bodies smooth muscles, so that they don't work as well (or at all), one of those smooth muscles is the stomach, which is required for puking.

You can kill yourself with tylenol/codeine, but it will be a tylenol death via liver damage, a very lousy way to go.

If you extract the codeine you can OD on just that, due to lack of breathing, caused by your lungs (more smooth muscle) ceasing to function.

[phil]

Not just regular OTC Tylenol. It has to be Tylenol Codeine, which is only prescribed by doctors.

go to canada :)

you can get tylenol with codeine OTC :)

[thundercles]

Take into consideration that T3 and I assume 4 have alot of acetaminophen per small codien dose. And acetam OD causes liver failure, and that's a painful death.
Yes I would like to point this out. Tylonal is bad for you. I take the shitty drugs they distrubute to the masses as little as possible. Luckily I very very rarely get sick. Anyways, yeah, get REAL Oxycontin or morphine pills if you can, or do a cold water extraction on tylenol codeine pills/vicadins/percocets, anything cut with acetominophen.

[thundercles]

woa this is cool.You can know get high on tylenol.Never thought of that.
LMAO, please go to flames more often, PLEASE

[thundercles]

My dr. is one of the leading dr's in new york. He is in a number of magazines. He was part of the research of many major drugs. He says Codeine is not addictive. IT is habitual. you only have to weine off of it. This is my case. I only take 1-2 tablets daily for long term (years). Don't know how many mg's it takes to get fucked up off of it, but the DR said you will throw up before u overdose on it. That is all i know about the drug.



also what is the dosage to get fucked up off of codeine? is 60mg enough?
My Dr. is Dr. Dre. He is one of the leading doctors in the rap industry. He says fuck that, do heroin. I don't think I'll follow his advice, but I could sure go for some opium or oxys. I'll stay the fuck away from anything cut with tylonal tho. The prescription drug industry is cutting drugs worse then a crack dealer.

[Mr.Bigs]

If the Tylenol in the Tylenol #3/4 is bad. If i asked the Dr. To give me straight Codeine. Would he do it? Would that be safer. Or is it something special abou the Tylenol mixed with the codeine that makes it more safe or something?


also remember i am not taking it to get fucked up. I am not taking it in large amounts. I am taking 1 to 1 and a half pills a day. Nothing that will FUck up my liver.

[Pskov]

lol
He'd tell you to get out, you druggie freak :P


The tylonol is in there for the exact reason we all hate it, it makes it much less usefull for getting high.

At your doses there is nothing wrong with tylonol being in there, it's when you have a resistance to it, and you have to take a dozen of them to get high that it destroys your liver.

1-2 pills/day isn't going to leave you addicted to it, BUT to deal with X amount of pain you will need Y pills, and Y goes up over time, as your body devolopes a resistance to the opiates.
So if your pain is permanent, you'll need 2-3 in a while, then 3-4, 4-5, etc.
Till eventually your docter will have to switch you off those, and on to something that has more opiate, and less tylonol.
At the 2-3/3-4 a day mark, you will notice withdrawls if you suddenly stop taking them, if you want to be able to eat, sleep, and shit, you will have to taper things down, a few days at 1 pill less, then a few more with one less pill then that, etc.

[Victor Of Eons]

If the Tylenol in the Tylenol #3/4 is bad. If i asked the Dr. To give me straight Codeine. Would he do it? Would that be safer. Or is it something special abou the Tylenol mixed with the codeine that makes it more safe or something?


They gave you T3 for just that reason, so you can't abuse it without risking acetam poisoning.

Taking large amounts of acetaminophen can kill you. Just buy someone else's OC's if you want a fix for your itch.

Have any of you considred that opiates change the chemistry of your body? Overuse effects the dopemine receptors, and can impact your long term ability to feel pleasure.

[Mr.Bigs]

Actually im not using it for pain. Im using it for something else ;)

[phil]

Actually im not using it for pain. Im using it for something else ;)

god you're dumb.