For all those who have the old stackers still lying around...

[Mr. Joey the arm]

here is a little something I did the other day, cause I'm bored and have half a brain as it is, so who gives a shit about a fwe brain cells?


the old stackers, the ones that had ephedra in them, are quite potent. I used to take them when i was working at TGI fridays to give me that extra 'perk' without the coke or crack (i dont do crack, that was a joke)

anyways, I cracked open a stacker, and smashed up most of the pill into powder. (straight dust, the finer the better) and sprinkled it on some weed and rolled a blunt.

a niggered out woobanger if you will.


fucking wow, thats all I can say. we put the blunt out halfway through cause we were so high. and we got just as fucked up a few nights later when we finished the blunt.

I dunno if it will work with the new stackers, or with any other ephedra containing products, but your welcomed to try.

just figured I'd share this with ya.

[Joejoe8569]

yea dude we used to do that same thing. We got straight the fucked up.

[thundercles]

New stackers probably don't have ephedra in them, there is now an ephedrine ban that makes it so the government completly controls the distribution of this drug. The reason is because cooking ephedrine with red phosphorus (from matchbook strikers) and iodine (made from iodine tincture) makes really potent methamphetamine, without even needing external heating. People would just buy a case of stackers or sudefed and mix it up with the strikers and iodine in a plastic container, then crystalize and filter out meth with pool acid.

Ephedrine itself will get you really ripped however, it is just the alcohol version of methamphetamine (it has an OH group attached to the #1 carbon on the propyl chain).

Edit: The nice thing about ephedrine, and methamphetamine made from ephedrine is they are stereo isomers. There are two stereo isomers, the left and right, the right isomer of meth, and the left isomer of ephedrine are extremely potent and the other ones are not. The old speed which was known as "crank" was a racemic mixture which contained about a 50/50 mix of each since it is very difficult to seperate chemically. Enzymes in plants often only make one or the other, and this is the case with Ephedrine.