Hydro
11-29-2005, 02:12 AM
Introduction
It occurred to me that it may be a good idea to create a tutorial for those who are about to try a new drug, there will be nothing specific here obviously, but it seemed to me that it would be a good idea as there are some precautions that should always be considered in my opinion. As I said there is nothing specific, so if you were looking at this in an attempt to find a new way to get high off a crazy new drug then I apologise, but this isn’t the place you should be looking. I will be looking at a few of the things that should be known before trying something for the first time, both in terms of making sure that you are getting a good deal, and also making sure that you aren’t taking too much or too little of a substance, especially bearing in mind that this is your first time, there is no point heading off to erowid with a handful of some exciting new research chemical and a happy face and then reading random reports and bits of information.
Part 1. Becoming familiar with the effects of the substance.
If you hear about a new drug that sounds entertaining because it is allegedly similar to something else you may or may not have tried, do not assume that it is going to be exactly the same, there is a very high possibility that two drugs will have very different properties, most drugs have very distinctive effects and the smallest of differences can make a big difference. Read reports or find speak to people and get some word of mouth experience from those you know… any report will do as long as you can be sure it is accurate, at this point in time you do nor have to worry too much about the dosage of what the writer has taken nor do you have to take into account any similarities between your situation and theirs. Read FAQ’s and other similar things and one thing that should come into it would be to use a bit of common sense, for example if you wish to try MDMA for the first time and you know about the euphoric empathic effects involved, do not assume that this means that it does nothing else but make you happy, drugs do what they do for a reason, now, my example of this involves the chemical name for ecstasy, MDMA which stands for 3, 4 Methelenedioxymethamphetamine, take into account that highlighted part, that means that this is a stimulant, some of you may know this some of you may not but a lot can be gained from knowing the chemical name of a substance, an amphetamine is as I mentioned a stimulant, stimulants are going to increase your heart rate and they are going to give you a “speedy” feeling, this will mean that you will be putting you heart at a strain by trying this substance, the amount necessary for this is irrelevant in this tutorial as ecstasy was simply being used as an example as to how much can be learned about the effects from a chemical structure and trip reports alone.
Part 2. Learning ways that the drug can be consumed.
You have to do this if you have heard very little a it is best to know more about what it is that you intend to buy, for example if you intend to try DXM for the first time it is best to know that it can come in many forms, some of them can be easily obtained and some of them cannot, we will use DXM as the example for this part of the tutorial as it seems like a good one to choose, this is because the number of different ways that it can be obtained is very high. Most people who wish to try DXM appear to go for the easiest option, although by no means the best as relates to certain aspects, although I will not go into anymore detail as that would be irrelevant at this point, it can be bought in cough syrup, cough gels and it can also be bought in chemical form from various retailers. I will not be giving out any information about places to get it in its pure form nor am I giving any details on how to get hold of it even as a gel or syrup again as that would be unnecessary in this tutorial. Now, when you know how it can be obtained you have to take into account that there are quite possibly multiple ways that it can be consumed, using pure powder as the example in this instance it can be ingested in various ways, firstly it can of course be eaten in pure powder form, although that is said to be truly unbearable, much as to be expected if one was to put raw chemicals into their mouth, however this way of consuming it is probably the most efficient in terms of the speed in which it takes to give noticeable effects in terms of swallowing it. It can be insufflated, however this is said to be very painful, in fact I have heard that this is also a dangerous thing to do and is therefore not particularly favoured way of taking it. It can also be placed into caps which will be the easiest way to ingest it although it will also take the longest to kick in. there is also the method of parachuting the powder, by wrapping it in a small piece of tissue paper, and in turn swallowing that you are able to bypass the process of waiting for it to kick in and also dealing with the taste.
The point of that was to explain that there are multiple methods of taking anything, and DXM as I said seemed like a good idea as it is one of the drugs that can be obtained and consumed in various different ways. Once you have taken into account all of the possible ways of consuming whatever drug you are intending to take a good next step would be to read a few reports (a suggestion which I will most likely offer a few times during the course of this tutorial) and work out which of these methods suits you the best, some people are willing to sacrifice a bit of time for a drug to kick in whereas others aren’t, they would prefer to deal with adversity to hurry the effects along, it all depends on your own personal opinion. When you know about a large array of different techniques, methods and personal preference, you are then in the position to go on to the next step.
Part 3. Amounts as applies to consumption.
A fairly simple one in my opinion, this information can be found using a various array of different sources, again in this instance I will use erowid, as this is one that I feel truly offers the most information when it comes to most aspects of research, now, no-one wants to have too weak of an experience, however what people want even less is to do harm to themselves by lacking the correct knowledge or by showing signs of being overzealous and not knowing their limits. As I mentioned previously, you do not want to have too much of a substance because you read a single trip report written by a very experienced user, this applies to all of us, remember there is always someone who has a higher tolerance than you, so do not assume that what applies to another person will apply to you. My advice it to use erowids brilliant categorization, if you cannot find what you are looking for in the dosage section of the vault of the drug in question, head to the reports as I suggested, do not read the ones in the general section at this point in time, unlike previously where you were not looking for anything relevant to your particular situation. Look at the reports written by first time users, preferably those written by someone of a similar weight to you although with most things that is not of the utmost importance, (however with certain substances it is, however you should already know this by this point) as you read them take the dosage amount into account… take note of the effects that these users felt, ask yourself if this is the level you wish to be at, ask yourself honestly if this is going to overwhelm you, make sure that you are prepared to go through at least what the person in the report you read went through regardless of the likelihood of it happening. Check the consistency of reports, read a few as one report may say something very different to another, and one thing that you do not want to do is assume that one is correct only to find out that it wasn’t realistic information, look for a pattern in dosage as relates to strength, if you can see one then you can assume that this is an average experience at this dose with this drug, and assume that this is the sort of thing you are likely to have to deal with.
Part 4. Legality
Now, you know what to expect from the drug, you know how what you may expect can differ due to amounts taken and you also know how to consume the drug in the first place, I would say that that pretty much covers the necessary knowledge needed when taking a new substance. Next up is knowing what to expect in terms of the law relating to the drug, I would say that the first step is to know the basics, find out the schedule/class of the substance, in fact firstly find out whether or not it is a controlled substance, once you know this you can work things out in more detail. Know, providing it is not a controlled substance and you are careful and realistic you should not have to worry, however on the other hand if it is controlled (which we shall use for the example at this stage) you want to know how much of it is considered possession, how much is likely to be considered for “intent” to sell and how much is definitely considered over the line as relates to the dealing law.
As for drug testing (which I think ties into this part of the tutorial) I would suggest that one of the most sensible things to do would be to firstly find out how long it stays in you system for providing I will be picked up in a drug test at all, secondly, find out whether there are any substances that could cause false positives, (false alarms – giving a positive if you have not taken the drug.) this can work both ways, for example, one substance that may be legal and you are taking it recreationally or medically could cause false positives for another substance, if this is the case then you could be assumed to be taking a drug that you are in fact, not taking at all… which is of course not a good thing if the one you are not taking is considered to be worse than the one you are really taking in the eyes of the law. However If you can prove that you have been taking something that causes false positives for a substance that you have in reality taking recreationally, you could be able to get the results of the test proved to be “inconclusive” in which case you will very likely be tested again, and have a second chance.
Part 5. Obtaining the substance.
With most things there are multiple ways to get hold of the substance itself, will not use an example at this point as it will limit me to the methods used with that particular drug alone. However I will attempt to create a list of the different possibilities when it comes to obtaining a substance whatever it may be, you will have to work out for yourself (using the research you should have already done by this point) whether or not each particular method is relevant to the substance you are considering. Here is the list of different methods of obtaining a substance that I can think of –
Dealers, some drugs (e.g. marijuana) will be dealt via a dealer, obviously not all dealers will deal all drugs so you may have to put a little effort into finding one that you can trust, and that can get you what you need.
Plant matter, some drugs (e.g. mescaline) can be obtained from various plants, these plants may grow randomly nearby and some may have to bought or otherwise.
Retailers, some substances (e.g. salvia divinorum) can be sold by different retailers in headshops or otherwise, whether it be a real shop locally or whether it be an online shop.
Substances around the home, some different things that may be in the house already can contain intoxicating chemicals or substances (e.g. nutmeg) whether this be in chemical containing products, or whether it be in food or other things contained in the home.
Medication, certain medication (e.g. Certain Painkillers – Codeine) will contain intoxicating substances, these will also often contain other things so I would suggest that you are very careful to know how much of the other ingredients you are consuming as well. Medicines can often be bought, and can also be prescribed.
Part 6. Prices.
To find out about prices of things one good thing to do is to find out if anyone you know has done them, if so then ask them what they paid, this is often useful as you can then be assured of a price that is recommended to pay locally, this of course is in relation to substances bought from shops in the area or from local dealers, not the internet or places not local. Secondly, look on the net, some reports may have this information in the as may some forums, forums are a good bet as they have a plethora of information related to questions that cannot be answered via normal methods, and often price is one of these… however as I mentioned earlier, one of the problems comes with the fact that prices differ from place to place, therefore you would be better suited to finding out local information if at all possible… Take MDMA for example again, in America prices can range anywhere from about $10 - $30 as far as I know whereas over here in England I would expect to pay £2 - £5 ($4 - $10), also across the country prices will also differ. As I said, that would be in relation to buying from a shop or dealer, when it comes to buying from the net one of the better things to do is quite simply too look around, see what the best deal is and compare the prices from one place to another, you do not want to get ripped off as a result of laze or not knowing something you could have easily found out with a little time, effort and research.
Part7. Finally, ask us.
If there is nothing else you can do to find what you are looking for, then by all means ask, if none of these sources of information or techniques can help you then it is quite likely that one of the members of the forum will have some of the information that you are looking for and will be able to inform you well… A lot of the people who use these forums know a lot of information about different substances, and they will all be willing to help as long as what you have asked appears to have a little research done into it in the first place. People will of course be willing to help you otherwise too, but is always nice to see that someone has tried themselves before asking a question they could have answered with a bit of simple research, the same is true of looking back through the various topics, see if there is anything relevant already in a thread that you can use to learn a little from, hopefully there will be something you find relevant and useful.
Conclusion.
Hopefully that helps you all in your attempts to find the information you are looking for, also if anyone can suggest anything that they feel I should add or edit that would be more than welcome, and any criticism or general comments are also welcomed. I will update this if I am able to think of anything else that I consider to be relevant and also if anything is suggested to me that I feel needs to be in there… as I say I hope that helped anyone reading it… good luck.
Also I apologise if I wrote slightly too much specifically about the examples, the point in my having done that was to allow people to read into those examples and to understand the way that it could be done with those drugs and the way that relates to other substances. The examples are not to be taken as a litteral part of the tutorial.
Hydro
It occurred to me that it may be a good idea to create a tutorial for those who are about to try a new drug, there will be nothing specific here obviously, but it seemed to me that it would be a good idea as there are some precautions that should always be considered in my opinion. As I said there is nothing specific, so if you were looking at this in an attempt to find a new way to get high off a crazy new drug then I apologise, but this isn’t the place you should be looking. I will be looking at a few of the things that should be known before trying something for the first time, both in terms of making sure that you are getting a good deal, and also making sure that you aren’t taking too much or too little of a substance, especially bearing in mind that this is your first time, there is no point heading off to erowid with a handful of some exciting new research chemical and a happy face and then reading random reports and bits of information.
Part 1. Becoming familiar with the effects of the substance.
If you hear about a new drug that sounds entertaining because it is allegedly similar to something else you may or may not have tried, do not assume that it is going to be exactly the same, there is a very high possibility that two drugs will have very different properties, most drugs have very distinctive effects and the smallest of differences can make a big difference. Read reports or find speak to people and get some word of mouth experience from those you know… any report will do as long as you can be sure it is accurate, at this point in time you do nor have to worry too much about the dosage of what the writer has taken nor do you have to take into account any similarities between your situation and theirs. Read FAQ’s and other similar things and one thing that should come into it would be to use a bit of common sense, for example if you wish to try MDMA for the first time and you know about the euphoric empathic effects involved, do not assume that this means that it does nothing else but make you happy, drugs do what they do for a reason, now, my example of this involves the chemical name for ecstasy, MDMA which stands for 3, 4 Methelenedioxymethamphetamine, take into account that highlighted part, that means that this is a stimulant, some of you may know this some of you may not but a lot can be gained from knowing the chemical name of a substance, an amphetamine is as I mentioned a stimulant, stimulants are going to increase your heart rate and they are going to give you a “speedy” feeling, this will mean that you will be putting you heart at a strain by trying this substance, the amount necessary for this is irrelevant in this tutorial as ecstasy was simply being used as an example as to how much can be learned about the effects from a chemical structure and trip reports alone.
Part 2. Learning ways that the drug can be consumed.
You have to do this if you have heard very little a it is best to know more about what it is that you intend to buy, for example if you intend to try DXM for the first time it is best to know that it can come in many forms, some of them can be easily obtained and some of them cannot, we will use DXM as the example for this part of the tutorial as it seems like a good one to choose, this is because the number of different ways that it can be obtained is very high. Most people who wish to try DXM appear to go for the easiest option, although by no means the best as relates to certain aspects, although I will not go into anymore detail as that would be irrelevant at this point, it can be bought in cough syrup, cough gels and it can also be bought in chemical form from various retailers. I will not be giving out any information about places to get it in its pure form nor am I giving any details on how to get hold of it even as a gel or syrup again as that would be unnecessary in this tutorial. Now, when you know how it can be obtained you have to take into account that there are quite possibly multiple ways that it can be consumed, using pure powder as the example in this instance it can be ingested in various ways, firstly it can of course be eaten in pure powder form, although that is said to be truly unbearable, much as to be expected if one was to put raw chemicals into their mouth, however this way of consuming it is probably the most efficient in terms of the speed in which it takes to give noticeable effects in terms of swallowing it. It can be insufflated, however this is said to be very painful, in fact I have heard that this is also a dangerous thing to do and is therefore not particularly favoured way of taking it. It can also be placed into caps which will be the easiest way to ingest it although it will also take the longest to kick in. there is also the method of parachuting the powder, by wrapping it in a small piece of tissue paper, and in turn swallowing that you are able to bypass the process of waiting for it to kick in and also dealing with the taste.
The point of that was to explain that there are multiple methods of taking anything, and DXM as I said seemed like a good idea as it is one of the drugs that can be obtained and consumed in various different ways. Once you have taken into account all of the possible ways of consuming whatever drug you are intending to take a good next step would be to read a few reports (a suggestion which I will most likely offer a few times during the course of this tutorial) and work out which of these methods suits you the best, some people are willing to sacrifice a bit of time for a drug to kick in whereas others aren’t, they would prefer to deal with adversity to hurry the effects along, it all depends on your own personal opinion. When you know about a large array of different techniques, methods and personal preference, you are then in the position to go on to the next step.
Part 3. Amounts as applies to consumption.
A fairly simple one in my opinion, this information can be found using a various array of different sources, again in this instance I will use erowid, as this is one that I feel truly offers the most information when it comes to most aspects of research, now, no-one wants to have too weak of an experience, however what people want even less is to do harm to themselves by lacking the correct knowledge or by showing signs of being overzealous and not knowing their limits. As I mentioned previously, you do not want to have too much of a substance because you read a single trip report written by a very experienced user, this applies to all of us, remember there is always someone who has a higher tolerance than you, so do not assume that what applies to another person will apply to you. My advice it to use erowids brilliant categorization, if you cannot find what you are looking for in the dosage section of the vault of the drug in question, head to the reports as I suggested, do not read the ones in the general section at this point in time, unlike previously where you were not looking for anything relevant to your particular situation. Look at the reports written by first time users, preferably those written by someone of a similar weight to you although with most things that is not of the utmost importance, (however with certain substances it is, however you should already know this by this point) as you read them take the dosage amount into account… take note of the effects that these users felt, ask yourself if this is the level you wish to be at, ask yourself honestly if this is going to overwhelm you, make sure that you are prepared to go through at least what the person in the report you read went through regardless of the likelihood of it happening. Check the consistency of reports, read a few as one report may say something very different to another, and one thing that you do not want to do is assume that one is correct only to find out that it wasn’t realistic information, look for a pattern in dosage as relates to strength, if you can see one then you can assume that this is an average experience at this dose with this drug, and assume that this is the sort of thing you are likely to have to deal with.
Part 4. Legality
Now, you know what to expect from the drug, you know how what you may expect can differ due to amounts taken and you also know how to consume the drug in the first place, I would say that that pretty much covers the necessary knowledge needed when taking a new substance. Next up is knowing what to expect in terms of the law relating to the drug, I would say that the first step is to know the basics, find out the schedule/class of the substance, in fact firstly find out whether or not it is a controlled substance, once you know this you can work things out in more detail. Know, providing it is not a controlled substance and you are careful and realistic you should not have to worry, however on the other hand if it is controlled (which we shall use for the example at this stage) you want to know how much of it is considered possession, how much is likely to be considered for “intent” to sell and how much is definitely considered over the line as relates to the dealing law.
As for drug testing (which I think ties into this part of the tutorial) I would suggest that one of the most sensible things to do would be to firstly find out how long it stays in you system for providing I will be picked up in a drug test at all, secondly, find out whether there are any substances that could cause false positives, (false alarms – giving a positive if you have not taken the drug.) this can work both ways, for example, one substance that may be legal and you are taking it recreationally or medically could cause false positives for another substance, if this is the case then you could be assumed to be taking a drug that you are in fact, not taking at all… which is of course not a good thing if the one you are not taking is considered to be worse than the one you are really taking in the eyes of the law. However If you can prove that you have been taking something that causes false positives for a substance that you have in reality taking recreationally, you could be able to get the results of the test proved to be “inconclusive” in which case you will very likely be tested again, and have a second chance.
Part 5. Obtaining the substance.
With most things there are multiple ways to get hold of the substance itself, will not use an example at this point as it will limit me to the methods used with that particular drug alone. However I will attempt to create a list of the different possibilities when it comes to obtaining a substance whatever it may be, you will have to work out for yourself (using the research you should have already done by this point) whether or not each particular method is relevant to the substance you are considering. Here is the list of different methods of obtaining a substance that I can think of –
Dealers, some drugs (e.g. marijuana) will be dealt via a dealer, obviously not all dealers will deal all drugs so you may have to put a little effort into finding one that you can trust, and that can get you what you need.
Plant matter, some drugs (e.g. mescaline) can be obtained from various plants, these plants may grow randomly nearby and some may have to bought or otherwise.
Retailers, some substances (e.g. salvia divinorum) can be sold by different retailers in headshops or otherwise, whether it be a real shop locally or whether it be an online shop.
Substances around the home, some different things that may be in the house already can contain intoxicating chemicals or substances (e.g. nutmeg) whether this be in chemical containing products, or whether it be in food or other things contained in the home.
Medication, certain medication (e.g. Certain Painkillers – Codeine) will contain intoxicating substances, these will also often contain other things so I would suggest that you are very careful to know how much of the other ingredients you are consuming as well. Medicines can often be bought, and can also be prescribed.
Part 6. Prices.
To find out about prices of things one good thing to do is to find out if anyone you know has done them, if so then ask them what they paid, this is often useful as you can then be assured of a price that is recommended to pay locally, this of course is in relation to substances bought from shops in the area or from local dealers, not the internet or places not local. Secondly, look on the net, some reports may have this information in the as may some forums, forums are a good bet as they have a plethora of information related to questions that cannot be answered via normal methods, and often price is one of these… however as I mentioned earlier, one of the problems comes with the fact that prices differ from place to place, therefore you would be better suited to finding out local information if at all possible… Take MDMA for example again, in America prices can range anywhere from about $10 - $30 as far as I know whereas over here in England I would expect to pay £2 - £5 ($4 - $10), also across the country prices will also differ. As I said, that would be in relation to buying from a shop or dealer, when it comes to buying from the net one of the better things to do is quite simply too look around, see what the best deal is and compare the prices from one place to another, you do not want to get ripped off as a result of laze or not knowing something you could have easily found out with a little time, effort and research.
Part7. Finally, ask us.
If there is nothing else you can do to find what you are looking for, then by all means ask, if none of these sources of information or techniques can help you then it is quite likely that one of the members of the forum will have some of the information that you are looking for and will be able to inform you well… A lot of the people who use these forums know a lot of information about different substances, and they will all be willing to help as long as what you have asked appears to have a little research done into it in the first place. People will of course be willing to help you otherwise too, but is always nice to see that someone has tried themselves before asking a question they could have answered with a bit of simple research, the same is true of looking back through the various topics, see if there is anything relevant already in a thread that you can use to learn a little from, hopefully there will be something you find relevant and useful.
Conclusion.
Hopefully that helps you all in your attempts to find the information you are looking for, also if anyone can suggest anything that they feel I should add or edit that would be more than welcome, and any criticism or general comments are also welcomed. I will update this if I am able to think of anything else that I consider to be relevant and also if anything is suggested to me that I feel needs to be in there… as I say I hope that helped anyone reading it… good luck.
Also I apologise if I wrote slightly too much specifically about the examples, the point in my having done that was to allow people to read into those examples and to understand the way that it could be done with those drugs and the way that relates to other substances. The examples are not to be taken as a litteral part of the tutorial.
Hydro