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T-Wrecks
08-25-2005, 03:18 AM
This thread is for information purposes only.
Any use of the thread to intoxicate, incite, envigorate, relax, fade, speed, or "Get Crunk" is not encouraged, Use at your own risk.

Here is our offical stance on Pill IDs :
DO NOT REQUEST PILL IDs! (http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?t=14219)
*note* this will not change.

*NOTE* The dosages I recommend are purely recreational that means, these dosages are typically not suitable to go out in public on, as, the dosage I recommend with typically fuck you up(in a good way) or, make you seem a bit off to most people. Always use caution when using recreational drugs and going out into public. Not everyone is kind to people that use drugs.

It must be noted that dosages obviously increase when you build up a tolerance. Tolerance is KING and can make or break a recreational use attempt. I can't tell you how much, but you should be able to guesstimate if you frequently use the drugs enough to build a tolerance. This is just advice though, and should not be making a decision. Your body is yours noone will destroy it but you.

SSRIs

Celexa, Prozac, Luvox, Paxil, Zoloft, Desyrel

Technical name :
Citalopram, Fluoxetine, Fluvoxamine, Paroxetine, Sertraline, and Trazodone
Prescribed for :
SSRIs are a class of pharmaceuticals that increase levels of serotonin in the brain. They are the most popular type of anti-depressants prescribed in the U.S. and have also been shown to reduce MDMA-related neurotoxicity in research animals.
Street Uses :
Most often SSRIs are just passed off as pills for a person to buy, they always say, "Ahh, these fuck me up man" , but they are considered to have vary little recreational value, if any at all.
Dosage :
They varys quite extremely from product to product. As I don't recommend the use of SSRIs at all, you don't need to know ;), espieceally for recreational use.
Warnings a Precautions :
Various people have a difficult time with SSRIs and often people have bad reactions to SSRIs which can include anxiety, headache, tremors, dizziness, sleep disturbances, and sexual dysfunction.

There are adverse reactions that can include nose bleeds, fever, skin rash, weight gain/loss, seizures, hyponatremia, and suicidal ideation. Individual chemicals with SSRI activity may cause additional types of adverse reactions.

SSRIs should not be used in combination with MAOIs. This combination can lead to serotonin syndrome, which can be dangerous and/or deadly.

SSRIs should only be used with caution in those with a history of liver problems.
Personal Notes :
I was prescribed a couple of SSRIs, I personally, had bad experiences, with them, and will not use an SSRI in the future.

Benzodiazepines

Xanax
Technical name :
Alprazolam
Prescribed for :
Anxiety and Sleep disorders
Street Uses :
Taken in doses of 2-4mg if will cause heavy relaxation, and a feeling very much similar to being drunk without a hangover. Loss of inhibitons is guranteed.
Dosage :
Typically most people take 2-4mg to be feeling really good, an upwards of 6 can be safe, but can be accompanied by coma-like sleep.
Warnings a Precautions :
* Take it easy, don't go overboard, because, whats fun about going to party and not remember a damn thing.

Klonopin
Technical name :
Clonazepam
Prescribed for :
Seizures and Panic attacks.
Street Uses :
Klonopin is a benzodiazepine prescribed for Panic attacks, and seizures. Most first hand accounts say the "Buzz" of Klonopin is more pronounce and longer lasting then Xanax.
Dosage :
Doses are roughly the same as Xanax .5mg is = to 10mg of Valium. This is prescribed for seizures and panic attacks. 2-4mg is the typical ideal recreational dosage range. Tolerance builds quickly, take that into account.
Warnings a Precautions :
All Benzodiazepines have a risk of a long coma-like sleep. It typically isn't that dangerous but it may scare the shit out of your family. It also can be habit forming and does have widthdrawl symptons. Typically it isn't smart to mix benzos with alcohol.
Personal Notes :
I have recently been on 120 1mg klonopin a month, and I find that it is indeed stronger then xanax. Yet, the buzz is kind of different. Its hard to notice and it just kind of creeps up on you and by then its too late and you are floored. I would have to rank klonopin as lets see, maybe 2nd or 3rd in the benzo department.

Valium
Technical name :
Diazepam
Prescribed for :
Anxiety and Sleep disorders and Depression
Street Uses :
Last longer then Xanax, and is more calming/less intoxicating. Dose range is much safer then Xanax, and valium can be somewhat easy to attain.
Dosage :
20-40mg will make most people feel pretty good.
Warnings a Precautions :
Be careful when mixing with alcohol, and other depressants. The effect of Valium last longer, so they may impair your day to day ability if you abuse them heavily. Not to mention all Benzodiazepines have serious habit forming and widthdrawl effects.
Personal Notes :
Valium is a very calming benzodiazepine with somewhat more of a semi-euphoric intoxicating effect.

Ativan

Technical name :
Lorazepam
Prescribed for :
Anxiety and Sleep disorders
Street Uses :
Ativan is considered Valiums little brother. It is taken in smaller doses and last a shorter time then Valium, but longer then Xanax. It has a good calming effect and will make nearly anyone extremely relaxed. Ativan is also typically made minty tasting and to be dissolved in the mouth for quick absorption.
Dosage :
Doses are roughly double that of Xanax. 1mg Ativan is comparable to .5mg Xanax, except it has more prominent effects and last a bit longer.
Warnings a Precautions :
All Benzodiazepines have a risk of OD and long coma-like sleep. It typically isn't that dangerous but it may scare the shit out of your family. It also can be habit forming and does have widthdrawl symptons. Alcohol should be considered a no-no with benzodiazepines. They produce roughly the same effects, so pick one or the other.
Personal Notes :
Ativan became my favorite benzodiazepine whenever I had a script for 120 2mg Ativan a month. After a foolish suicide attempt on my behalf, I was taken off the script, but, overall, I've found Ativan to have a safer dose range, but a longer buzz then Xanax and more pronounced memory loss, as Ativan binds strongly with the GABA receptors Benzodiazepines effect.

Stimulants

Adderall
Technical name :
Amphetamine/DextroAmphetamine mix.
Prescribed for :
Add. and some severe cases of narcolepsy
Street Uses :
Typically use falls into two catagories. Partiers(and Tweakers) and People that need help doing basic work.(Such as a construction worker, or a college student) There are 2 types of Adderall, the regular pill form, and then there is the XR version(XR stands for eXtended Release). Both of these version and snortable, I do not recommend it, but it is my preffered type of ingestion.
Dosage :
A regular dose can be anywhere from 10-50mg probobly, depending on the method of ingestion. Snorting will affect you much quicker, and will typically require less material.
Warnings a Precautions :
High doses of any stimulant can have negative side-effects
Make Sure you don't overdue to much, or you may have some irregular heartbeats, and an increased pulse rate. Do too much and , well, I'' leave that up to you.
Personal Notes :
I've found that Adderall is a fairly safe drug to use recreationally. I've snorted probobly around 20-30mg of adderall in combination with 60-70mg of Ritalin, and I never had any problems at all. It will give you much energy, infact, thats where I got most of the energy to re-write this article and update it some more.

Ritalin, Concerta

Technical name :
Methylphenidate
Prescribed for :
Typically prescribed for Add. Narcolepsy, and Mild Depression.
Street Uses :
Typically use falls into two catagories. Partiers(and Tweakers) and People that need help doing basic work.(Such as a construction worker, or a college student) Non-time release generic Methylphenidate of Brand name Ritalin is extremely easy to snort. they come in a small white pill with 20-30mg of active material which means, little filler, and it hardly burns your nose at all. Very enjoyable as a whole. Considered very similar to Amphetamine, but reported to be less euphoric to many of the users. Concerta is more difficult for tweakers to use because alot of it is highly time-release. Meaning they are candy coated, and then are wax soaked, so, the time-release Ritalins are near impossible to snort, and if snorted would hurt like a motherfucker.
Dosage :
I've found that the dosage of Ritalin for an average person to a drug user varies. 20mg can be fine to wind some people out, and others need amounts of around 100mg to feel like they're content.
Warnings a Precautions :
High doses of any stimulant can have negative side-effects
Make Sure you don't overdue to much, or you may have some irregular heartbeats, and an increased pulse rate. Stimulants are known to be very difficult on your heart and extended use can possibly cause unwanted damage to oneself.
Personal Notes :
Wow, I never really fully realized the potential of Ritalin to I had the chance to attain some actual non-time-release snortable Ritalin. The were little white pills 20mg Methylphenidate, they crushed up easy and didn't burn the nose at all. I definately felt a surging amount of energy, focus, and an extreme want to snort more (similar to the fiending of cocaine)

Ephedra, Double-Action Ephderine, Stacker, Ephedrine Plus

Technical name :
Ephedrine HCl(Most brands contain Guaifenesin)
Over The Counter Purpose :
Asthma Relief(Always combined with Guaifenesin)
Street Uses :
Typical Speed, used either in study, work, or to increase alertness. This also has a dangerous reputation as being used to work out.(Very bad on your heart). Produces mild euphoria, work ethic, and enhances reflexes
Dosage :
Doseage can vary greatly, and Tolerance is definately an issue. Common dose is 25mg for Astham. For Alertness, working, or to stay awake typical dose can range from 50-100(Use caution, Ephedrine is rough on your body)
Warnings a Precautions :
Ephedrine is notorious for : Increased Pulse rate, Increased Blood Pressure, and Raise in Body Temperature. It is also known to cause heart damage with long term use, and may lead to "Amphetamine-like Psychosis". May also make one seem jittery.
Personal Notes :
I've used Ephedrine pretty extensively. I've found that it is a great work tool, and is the only over the counter medicine that will really keep me awake and alert for awhile. It also produces some euphoria, a sense of well being, an urge to accomplish things, and good work ethic. Using extensively can make running out "world-ending". It is wise to not use Ephedrine extensively, as, it has various undesireable side-effects.

Opiates

Oyxcontin, Percocet
Technical name :
Oxycontin = Oxycodone
Percocet = Oxycodone/APAP
Prescribed for :
Extreme Pain
Street Uses :
Oxycodone is one of the more powerful opiates around. It will make you feel completely relaxed, fuzzy, euphoric, and at peace.
Dosage :
Typically Oxycodone requires a lower dosage then Hydrocodone, but, I recommend around 10-20mg is you are looking to have fun, depending on your size and opiate tolerance. 40mg is easily tolerable and very enjoyable, but, unless you have experience with Opiates, take it easy.
Warnings a Precautions :
There is always the risk of an Opiate Overdose at extremely high doses. The most prevelant danger is Liver Toxicity if you ingest too much Acetaminaphen, Luckily Oxycontins have no tylenol, but, Percs still have that wretched chemical.
Personal Notes :
I've done ALOT of Percocets in my time, and I definately find Oxycontins to be the king of painkillers. Overall, my preference is snorting oxys to popping 5 Percocets, but hey, you get what you can get. I've actually been to Detox on one occasion relating to widthdrawl from not having any painkillers in my system.(I checked myself into a rehab because I ran out of painpills and got sick)

Lorcet, Vicodin

Technical name :
Hydrocodone/APAP
Prescribed for :
Serious Pain
Street Uses :
Slightly weaker then Percocets depending on the dosage. Produces Euphoria, Relaxation, Bliss, and Pain Ignorance.
Dosage :
10-20mg is a safe dosage to get you feeling really good. Tolerance will build up with time eventually making 10-20mg, 30-40mg.
Warnings a Precautions :
Liver Failure/Liver Toxicity due to intake of APAP. This is only really an issue when you consume 3000+mg of Acetaminaphen, and becomes much more dangerous when combined with alcohol.
Personal Notes :
I've taken my fair share of Lorcet/Lortab and I've definately taken vics plenty of times. I enjoy this, but, typically it is more taxing on your stomach to consume then the Oxycodone preparations are.

Misc-Downers

Ambien
Technical name :
Zolpidem
Prescribed for :
Insomnia
Street Uses :
Semi-Psychedelic Intoxicant
Dosage :
10-30mg is fairly common, but the ability to ingest up to 100mg safely with tolerance.
Warnings a Precautions :
The most dagerous thing about ambien is primarily the Intoxication and the Inability to remember what happened(Antegorade Amnesia). Going into public = Bad Idea. You would obviously be messed up and probobly wouldn't remember half of what you did.
Personal Notes :
I've taken plenty of Ambien, and it was one of the easiest to attain Intoxicants I could get my hands on. 10-20mg is a definate decent time, and I've done over 100mg without suffering harm, but, I don't remember the times as amnesia was definately prevelant at those doses.

Aquachloral, Somenote(capsules), Noctec
Technical name :
Chloral Hydrate
Prescribed for :
Insomnia
Street Uses :
Very heavy sedative, induces a severly "drunken-like" state after being administered. Doesn't last long, but, much euphoria, loss of coordination, and possibly loss of consciciousness.
Dosage :
Syrup - 10ml-20ml(1000mg-2000mg) With the syrup, you must heavily dilute it in water, it is caustic(burns soft tissue) and if you do not dilute it, you will probobly scorch your throat.
Capsules - 1000mg-2000mg
Warnings a Precautions :
Chloral Hydrate is quite toxic to your liver, and one of its metabolites, is related to a carcinogen, although, little is known in that respect. DO NOT mix with other downers.
Personal Notes :
I've done alot of this, and I'm primarily sickened by it now. It is a very heavy sedative and will set you on your ass if you aren't prepared. I've blacked out from this numerous times, and you wake up with a slight hang-over sometimes. As stated, do not mix with other downers, as this will most assuredly lead to a loss of consciciousness. Always use caution, and try not to bump into things(loss of coordination is quite severe)

Fioricet
Technical name :
Butalbital/Caffeine/APAP
Prescribed for :
Severe Migranes
Street Uses :
Butalbital is a very heavy downer taken in high amounts around 100mg to 300mg It produces heavy relaxation.
Dosage :
100mg to 300mg
Warnings a Precautions :
Fioricet also has Caffeine and Acetaminaphen so you must watch how much of that is consumed.
Personal Notes :
I've taken a decent amount of these before, and I've found that 150mg to 300mg made me really fucked up. I've done these mixed with many pills mostly though, so I can't give a true report on how they act alone. All I know is that when I've done them with other pills I've felt very good, and very painless. Heavy sedation is to be expected and walking will be difficult. I don't recommend people do what I do. These pills are safe when used recreationally though.

Jonny's guide to parachuting. [Idiot proof w/ pictures!]

I have used some resources that are not from personal experience(the majority is personal though)
These wonderful sites that I've obtained knowledge, which, I did not know helped me alot.

Erowid (http://www.erowid.org) Which I got much of my stimulant information from. They cover various catagories by far one of the best. If you don't know erowid, either you don't do drugs, or you live under a rock, any combination of the two is suitable.

RXlist (htp://www.rxlist.com) I got alot about SSRIs from here, but, moreso from real life. The main thing I like about rxlist is that I'm a drug nerd. I love the information on how drugs work, what dose differs from another dose, and how one may react. It also shows all the Contraindications(A.K.A. Potentially Dangerous). This is more medically based, and uses a lot of technical terms. Erowid is much more user friendly, but, if you are a drug nerd like myself. RXList is damn kool.

PoisonTheHat
08-25-2005, 03:20 AM
Nice piece of work, voted + and rated 5. BOTB material :)

Vengeful Scars
08-25-2005, 03:22 AM
though he won't tell you how to inject, I will...bm me if you're interested, i'm not wanting to post that publicly.

myst1c86
08-25-2005, 03:24 AM
I want to say thanks for sharing this with everyone, I will not use this information although others who are ill equipped mentally for pills can cause lots of damage to themselves and this information is a good way to make sure that doesn't happen :).

User Friendly
08-25-2005, 03:50 AM
nice work! +

T-Wrecks
08-25-2005, 03:56 AM
Thanks people, I've put alot of work into this, and I gurantee I will be putting more work into it the future, I need to cover a wider range of pills, but the primary ones I wanted to cover I've gotten to. Xanax, Lorcet, Vicodin, Oxy, Percs, Addies, and Ritalin were the mains ones I wanted to get down, so I'm glad I got that part. I will definately be adding more though, and this will become the premier pill thread for DnB. I will try and get personal notes on ever pill I can and If I can't I will just try to provide good information about it. The main thing is safety. I fuck around with alot of pills and I mix alot of pills, which I don't really recommend. Almost all of my threads I had a disclaimer in because I don't really wish to see people doing stupid shit I do. Plus I enjoy being the UnDisputed Pill King of DnB.

Leeroy.
08-25-2005, 04:38 AM
I'd like to see some done on codeine, I've done it but only about 90mg worth, I was feeling great and all, and when i laid down i had some cool closed eye visuals and was in a half sleep before i got up.

z0r
08-25-2005, 05:30 AM
Motha Fuckin Voted man! Voted and rated!
I have seen n on SR, but seriously its great.
Good work; King of DandB pills!

Quoth the Raven
08-25-2005, 05:39 AM
I'd like to see some done on codeine, I've done it but only about 90mg worth, I was feeling great and all, and when i laid down i had some cool closed eye visuals and was in a half sleep before i got up.
Codeine is awesome - my highest dose was about 300mg.. although at that dosage you don't DO anything.

PaulT
08-25-2005, 08:29 AM
I've done percocets and morphine, but other than that, haven't experimented with pills.

Great post, thanks man. Know anything about K-pins?

enfect
08-25-2005, 10:32 AM
Really nice job man, it's good to see someone at SR took the initiative with the erowid-like idea. I may post something very similar in the near future for a different type of drug. I'm glad you got the ball rolling man, awesome work! +

justanothernic
08-25-2005, 10:57 AM
though he won't tell you how to inject, I will...bm me if you're interested, i'm not wanting to post that publicly.

Its not exactly rocket science, although my friend Kyle couldn't hit a line in his arm after 8 tries. Maybe we should post a How-to guide to banging stuff up.

T-Wrecks
08-25-2005, 11:59 AM
I've done percocets and morphine, but other than that, haven't experimented with pills.

Great post, thanks man. Know anything about K-pins?

I'm damn sure by K-pin its Klonopin (Clonazepam) its a benzodiazepine. I don't personally have experience with it, but Its prescribed for sleep, panic orders and seizures. .5 of it is similar to 10mg of valium, its pretty much like Xanax, just prescribed for different reasons, so I imagine it has a much more sedative effect.

CajunWebMaster
08-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Great post! Voted and rated, more info here than I would bother to search for! (That's a good thing)

thundercles
08-25-2005, 12:39 PM
First of all I voted for great content addition to D&B forum, second of all, I'm moving this thread to Advanced Drug Discussion where it belongs.

Vengeful Scars
08-25-2005, 02:55 PM
Its not exactly rocket science, although my friend Kyle couldn't hit a line in his arm after 8 tries. Maybe we should post a How-to guide to banging stuff up.
The entire process of banging is unknown to people, alot of people think you have to cook everything, or just hit your vein. there's more work/less work than others think (I had a friend bang some coke and not pull the syringe back, so he had a build up of coke in his arm from missing the vein)

i'll type up a how to...

justanothernic
08-25-2005, 06:42 PM
The entire process of banging is unknown to people, alot of people think you have to cook everything, or just hit your vein. there's more work/less work than others think (I had a friend bang some coke and not pull the syringe back, so he had a build up of coke in his arm from missing the vein)

i'll type up a how to...

Yeah, I had a friend who wanted to mainline some yayo and I was glad I showed him how, he would have probably ended up with a cyst or worse. I'll be happy to add any suggestions or tips to your how to when you're done :D.

T-Wrecks
08-26-2005, 01:24 PM
I've updated the post with minor notes about the snortability of Xanax. The 2mg bars are definately the way to go if you with to snort xanax. Most compact per mg, no dye and less fillers. I'll be noticing the effects shortly. The fucking drip is nasty as hell though, omg does it taste bad.

Also, guys talking about injection. There are various types required for various uses. You have to remember all 3 if your going to tell a person how to do something.

I'm fucked up so I can only remember two, Intra-Mascular Injection (inject is like a glob into your muscle for it to spread out over your body) or Intra-Veinous (in the vein obviously)

justanothernic
08-27-2005, 06:19 PM
I've updated the post with minor notes about the snortability of Xanax. The 2mg bars are definately the way to go if you with to snort xanax. Most compact per mg, no dye and less fillers. I'll be noticing the effects shortly. The fucking drip is nasty as hell though, omg does it taste bad.

Also, guys talking about injection. There are various types required for various uses. You have to remember all 3 if your going to tell a person how to do something.

I'm fucked up so I can only remember two, Intra-Mascular Injection (inject is like a glob into your muscle for it to spread out over your body) or Intra-Veinous (in the vein obviously)

Sub-cutaneous I believe is the last, which is right under the skin. I don't like intramuscular [you're dealing with larger needles, easier chance of hitting nerves and extreme pain] or sub-cutaneous [don't know much about it, seems like a bad idea to me].

Anticrombie0909
09-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Personally, as I don't like smoking, I'm a huge pharms guy. Right now I'm loving Xan and Percs, but I'm interested in some of the other ones. Could you perhaps post some common street prices? I hate going into a deal totally blind, since it's so easy to get ripped off these days (I paid $8 a pop for Xan when I first started buying XP)

evan123
09-12-2005, 03:05 PM
Hey Travis, I added you to AIM but haven't seen you on so I mind as well ask here. I am prescribed to Fiornal which is almost exactly like Fiorcet. The thing is, i don't know how many mg each pill contains? It doesn't say on the bottle nor on the pill. If you could help me identify the amount of mgs, it would be appreciated.

Myth
09-20-2005, 06:51 PM
Here's the klonopin picture for ya, bro.

Oh an klonopin was prescribed to me for anti-anxiety.

Ollie
09-20-2005, 10:38 PM
www.rxlist.com

That url should be an addition -- major reason is because you can SEARCH BY PILL IMPRINT. I can't tell you how important it is when you start dealing with dealers and/or generics that you be able to confirm what pill it is that you're taking. Plus, anything "decent" will have the warning "WILL CAUSE DEPENDENCY" which is your ticket to "WILL CAUSE GOOD TIMES"

Myth
09-21-2005, 10:05 PM
30mg and 25mg adderall xr's for your list!

Myth
11-25-2005, 06:31 PM
Some more pills for your collection, good buddy!

First and second picture is Risperdal, (risperidone) is an antipsychotic medication that is also used for Bipolar Disorder, tic disorders, behaviors associated with autistic disorder, and severe aggression. Common side effects include sedation and weight gain. Although less common, other potential side effects can be severe.

My notes: Sleep aide, makes you feel like a billion bucks in the morning :)

Middle picture is Buspirone, a psychotropic drug with anxiolytic properties which belongs chemically to the class of compounds known as the azaspirodecanediones.

My notes: Alot like benzo's, gives you very light-headedness and sometimes a head ache. Not a very fun drug to do alone, but I've heard it goes very well with DXM.

toasterofdoom
05-07-2006, 04:08 PM
I used to parachute ritalin when I was in highschool, thats how my friends told me how to do it, but I wanna look for that generic brand, it must be cheaper too.

KXT
05-13-2006, 01:35 AM
Wow travis, great post.

Very very handy thanks for putting in the effort.

smash420
08-25-2006, 06:58 PM
Nice work Pharmy!!!!! You are the book of knowledge when it comes to substances!! I must say I can't deny it!!!!!!!

T-Wrecks
09-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Added Ephedrine, as, I've seen that become common to some people. It is so-far the only over the counter medicine I've added to this list.

I've also added Chloral Hydrate to the list.

pyrochist
09-04-2006, 09:42 PM
Rep'd + Great, guide man.