first time DXM user

[halib]

hi this is my first time tryin DXM and i don't want to reach anything higher than a first plateau i was wondering what a good dose would be for a first timer i was thinking 120 , and i have somewhat of a sensitive stomach i get nauseated easily will that be a problem with cough syrup and gelcaps ? and am i going to know that i am on a hallucinogen and shouldn't interact with people ? i would greatly appreciate your advice.

[.mile.high.]

I would say between 100-150 would be good for a first dose.

I'd suggest the gel caps over the syrup if you have a sensitive subject.

You will know you're on a drug, but you can probably interact with people fine.

[halib]

thanks for the advice

[girl]

Remember to make sure DXM (Dextromethorphan) is the ONLY active ingredient. If there are others than that, it'll make you sick to your stomach!
For example: Guaifenesin

[Seth]

EDIT: The post I was replying to was deleted.

How much do you weigh?

[Gamstah]

Remember to make sure DXM (Dextromethorphan) is the ONLY active ingredient. If there are others than that, it'll make you sick to your stomach!
For example: Guaifenesin

Or then just separate that DXM out from that shitty stomach killer. (Which can btw be used as cough medicine.)

Separation progress is rly not so hard if u have some free time on ur hands and kitchen. Its worth of the time.

[Seth]

Chances are, the OP is underage and unable to perform the process. It would be better to simply get DXM only products.

[mat1100]

gelcaps make me want the throw up just thinking about them. i was in to dexing a few years ago. and i'd swallow 30 or 40 of those horrible fucking things within 10 minutes.... fuuuun time. but i don't miss it

[pandapowerbeyotch]

Depends how much you weigh. The first time I did it, I did 360 mg and I'm 105 pounds. It was fun! Do the pills if you have a weak stomach. Everyone else already covered all the other advice I was gonna give ya while I was, ironically, taking DXM :)

[Seth]

You did a second plateau, a hefty one too. The OP wanted a first plateau, which would have been ~100mg for you.

Here's a nice guide to getting the dose right:

Weight in Kilograms (Multiply your weight in pounds x .4536 if needed)

1st plateau: 1.5-2.5 mg/kg - That's milligrams per kilogram. Dosing around 2mg/kg seems be the sweet spot.
2nd plateau: 2.5-7.5mg/kg - The sweet spot is around 5.5-6.5 mg/kg in our circles.
3rd plateau: 7.5-15mg/kg - It's recommended that one should be with a sober trip sitter, as the upper plateaus are very intense.
4th plateau: 15mg/kg+ -Toxicity is known to occur at doses beyond 20mg/kg, I advise you strongly not to venture to that level, even with a sitter.

Taken from the DXM FAQ
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/

[startrack]

So I'm curious now, since I've never taken DXM, what the high is like? I've done lots of weed, norco, percs and meth (a long time ago). I did LSD once too, but that didnt' turn out so well. I'm just wondering what "kind" of high you get... up, down, hallucinate, mellow??? And "halib" please let us know how it went.

[Seth]

Depends on the dose. You really should read the DXM FAQ. It will answer all of your questions. The link is in my last post. I'll try to put it as simple as possible (read the dosage ranges)

1st plateau: "The first plateau generally occurs around 1.5 to 2.5 mg/kg (some net users suggest 2.7 mg/kg as ideal for regular users), but this may vary enormously depending on metabolism and other factors. The first plateau is probably the hardest to hit; many people "overshoot" it. Please keep in mind that these effects listed are general effects, and that individual results may vary considerably.

A general narrative of the first plateau can be constructed. At about 30 minutes to 1 hour after dosing, an "alert" sensation is noticeable; this is simply a feeling that is unique for individual and signals the begin of altered consciousness. The experience has only a vaguely "drug-like" character for about 10 minutes, after which restlessness and slight stimulant effect are noticeable. After another 10 minutes or so, movement and position sense are altered; those with motion sickness begin to notice nausea. Gravity starts to feel weird, and one may bounce around a lot. Emotions may start to become intensified. There is a slight feeling of dissociation from reality, but overall the experience is slightly intoxicating, with intensified emotions and sense of importance from everyday events. This effect peaks and then slowly subsides until it is unnoticeable.

A first plateau trip usually takes between 20 and 40 minutes to start (on an empty stomach), peaks about 1.5 to 2 hours later, and lasts between 4 and 6 hours. Gel capsules take up to 1 hour additional to dissolve. Hangovers are very rare from this plateau, but if they do occur, they tend to consist mainly of lethargy.

The primary effects of the first plateau are general euphoria, euphoria specifically linked to music and motion, slight disturbances in balance, moderate stimulation, and very slight intoxication. The intoxication and balance disturbances are similar to that induced by alcohol, but much weaker and without the mental confusion; there is little if any mental sluggishness or confusion with a first plateau trip.

Some people have difficulty hitting the first plateau. It can take several trials; as a general guideline, if you notice double vision, you've gone way too far. A lot of the more pleasurable first plateau effects, in particular the music euphoria, are set and setting dependent. Being in good physical condition, avoiding excessive caffeine, and being in a good mood are all important factors in achieving a good first plateau dose.

Positive first plateau experiences are one of the first to go with regular use. Part of this seems to be tolerance (which builds quickly and lasts for considerable time). Another part seems to be a familiarity with the first plateau experience; after awhile it no longer seems quite so profound or interesting. Some have suggested changing set and setting as a way of regaining the more interesting aspects of the first plateau. "

2nd plateau: "
With the second plateau (around 2.5-7.5 mg/kg, 6.4 mg/kg suggested from regular users) several new effects become evident. The most profound is that DXM begins to take on a heavier "stoning" characteristic, and senses and cognitive function are affected accordingly. Closed-eye hallucinations start for some people on the second plateau. Some of the first plateau effects, e.g., the music and motion linked euphoria, may diminish or stop entirely.

Second plateau trips usually take between 30 and 60 minutes to start (on an empty stomach), peak about 2 to 3 hours later, and last about 6 hours. Again, gel capsules take up to 1 hour additional to dissolve. Hangovers are not common with lower second plateau trips, but some people experience them.

A general narrative of the second plateau: The trip beings identically to the first plateau trip, although the alert and early effects may be noticed earlier. After passing to the music and motion euphoria stage, the first plateau sensations begin to be overshadowed by disruptions in sensory processing, as sensory input begins to get "choppy". Both sight and sound take on a dreamlike characteristic and one begins to feel increasingly detatched from the outside world. There may be bursts of sensory deprivation where the outside world seems to go away, but overall one maintains contact (somewhat incoherent) with the outside world. After a few hours of an overall "stoned" feeling, the sensations begin to subside. A slight hangover consisting of lethargy may be noted the next day. "

3rd Plateau (INTENSE): "The flanging of visual effects, coupled with the loss of stereoscopic vision, becomes so strong that the brain seems to completely give up trying to process vision, leading to a sort of "chaotic blindness". Simple images (e.g., a candle flame) are still recognizable, although given the loss of stereoscopic vision one tends to see two of everything. More complex images, especially images that are not sharply defined, are difficult if not impossible to recognize. Vision, when possible, has a very dream-like quality to it.

Simple sounds are still understandable, and one can usually comprehend language, although it may be necessary for the speaker to phrase it in a complex rhythm (see Section 5.7.2). Music euphoria is rare. Touch and taste are subject to considerable anesthesia, and pain especially may be completely dissociated (it's still there, it just doesn't seem to apply). Body position, kinetic, and balance senses are similarly disrupted.

Some people continue to report an enhanced sense of smell on the third plateau; in a few people almost all smells are overpowering, and subtle elements of scents may be recognizable. This can affect taste, and ordinary foods or drinks can take on peculiar tastes as previously unknown odors are noticed. Even the type of container can affect the smell, with faint scents from paper cups, plastic, and even metal noticeable.

Hallucinations may continue, although they tend to be more abstract and "pre-sensory" rather than being predominantly visual. Oftentimes there is an overall sensation of being surrounded by "grey-ness", which brightens to white light as the dosage increases. There do seem to be more frequent moments of "virtual world" experiences, where one can construct an imaginary sensorium with the eyes closed.

At the third plateau, the flanging of sensory input occurs both on a raw level (sounds, images) and on higher levels (words, phrases, faces, etc.) This is, to my knowledge, unique to DXM. Flanging may slow down and speed up, leading to periods of lucidity alternating with periods of semi-consciousness. "
"Cognitive function becomes severely disrupted at the third plateau. Complex tasks, such as arithmetic, may be very difficult (though some report little or no difficulty with simple skills). Reaction time is significantly delayed. Decision-making is somewhat degraded, although conceptual thought is less affected than concrete thought. Generally speaking, mental tasks which do not require changing context are far less impaired than tasks which require one to change one's decision-making approach. "

4th Plateau: Read the damned FAQ. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_experience.shtml#toc.5.8

All I did was copy/paste from Erowid, as I am in a rush and unable to condense the information into an acceptable response at this time.

[Johnnyhigh]

It's hard to find without acetaminophine(sp) in pill form atleast i cant find any, but i have no prob drinking it, I find the no name brands are the ones that are straight up DXM

[the ego killer]

don't take if you're on any psychiatric medication (including adhd meds.)
it's dangerous with most psych meds but particularly with stimulants and anti-depressants.