Something to ponder

[Buddha]

Jews and Muslims(further referred to as Jewslims) must eat pure(Kosher... and I can't remember the Islamic equivalent)

Its Halal for Muslims. It not only incorporates what meats can and can't be eaten, but also correct butchery practices, in particular the method of slaughter.

[Ranga]

I'm an atheist, have been ever since I figured out Santa wasn't real(no joke). I don't view someone as less than me, in any sense, because they are religious. Personally, I view Jews and Muslims at a higher regard than Christians. The former live their lives based on a code of laws(even though the Quran never says anything about a women having to cover her face, that's just man putting his word in 'God's' mouth). Where as Christians live a life based on faith. To attain heaven all one must do in Christianity is believe Jesus was the son of God, and you'll attain ever lasting life. Jews and Muslims(further referred to as Jewslims) must eat pure(Kosher... and I can't remember the Islamic equivalent)(also I don't know as much about Islam as I do Judaism), and perform certain Miztvot(jewish) in life.

Christians took the easy way to attain heaven, whereas Jewslims must work every day to attain the same.


Yeah man I feel pretty similar. But can you go to heaven for just believing in Jesus though? I thought you had to follow the ten commandments and all that shit? Some of the 10 are pretty hard bro. Like don't covet your neighbours wife. What if she's really, really hot? But yeah, my mate was talking to me about this and he was saying how glad he is to be a Christian Lebanese instead of a Muslim one because to him Islam strikes him as a "lockdown religion" coz it "keeps you on fuckin lockdown, your not allowed to do shit". I was trying to explain to him that most of the shit Muslims aren't allowed to do, Catholics aren't either, but most Muslims just follow their religion a lot more strictly. I mean all I can think of off the top of my head that Muslims aren't allowed to do that Catholics can is eat bacon and non-halal meat. Oh and Muslims have to pray 5 times a day.

[ThinkTwice]

Im not going to debate. Anyone who ive ever tried explaining it to, minus one or two people has looked and/or called me crazy. Ill just let you guys figure it out yourself when you "die".

[Meowth]

As a Mexican-Roman Catholic, I was raised to pray for death and worship all forms of the one true lord, including the moss than forces the rock to blink. Our lady of Guadalupe, was the first god to love a human being. She was the second to look down upon earth. The god we worship is much different than the god most Catholics believe still loves them. The fruit of her loom, the art of the rose. And naphyrone was just another asteroid hitting the earth. My god is having a temper tantrum with the earth it was given. And nobody will remember its name.

[Meowth]

sthaviravāda, don't give up

[Illadelphian]

Im not going to debate. Anyone who ive ever tried explaining it to, minus one or two people has looked and/or called me crazy. Ill just let you guys figure it out yourself when you "die".

If you were able to properly defend your opinion then you would do so. The fact that you can't/won't only discredits what you said.

[Vengeful Scars]

As a Mexican-Roman Catholic, I was raised to pray for death and worship all forms of the one true lord, including the moss than forces the rock to blink. Our lady of Guadalupe, was the first god to love a human being. She was the second to look down upon earth. The god we worship is much different than the god most Catholics believe still loves them. The fruit of her loom, the art of the rose. And naphyrone was just another asteroid hitting the earth. My god is having a temper tantrum with the earth it was given. And nobody will remember its name.

Sorry bro, that ain't Roman Catholicism, at all. The trinity are the one true God, and only God(Father, Son, Holy Spirit, no more, no less) I am a raised Roman Catholic(yea, I am an athiest who went to parochial schools, and learned the Catholic Canon, you cannot disagree with what you don't know), and you will never, ever, hear a Catholic say "Our Lady of Guadalupe.... was (a) God". That is not Catholicism, or hell, even Christianity at all.

When I say the three are one, you should get it if you really are a Catholic, but unless I'm missing a big note on the difference between Roman Catholicism and Mexican-Roman Catholicism, god is not in the moss that causes the 'Rock to blink'. 'The God you worship' if construed how you put it, is a different God than "Our creator, of Heaven and Earth, of Adam and Eve, of all heavenly bodies" than you sir are not a Catholic.

And to whoever asked, All that is needed(in a Christian's eye) to attain Heaven, is to firmly believe Jesus Christ was the savior of humanity, and through him all sins are forgiven. A Murderer who has killed a million people may still attain heaven and ever lasting life, so long as he goes through Jesus.

To me, that is why Christianity is a crock of shit. Some Popes have said 'you do not need to believe in God to go to heaven' but then almost immediately contradicted because that goes against the core teachings of all of Christianity. If you don't need Jesus, why do you need the church?(And really, we should all be jews, because the Jewish Messiah is not the son of god at all, Messiah just means "Anointed One"). I cannot believe in heaven if Ghandi is burning in hell for subscribing to different beliefs, solely because of the culture he grew up in.

[ThinkTwice]

If you were able to properly defend your opinion then you would do so. The fact that you can't/won't only discredits what you said.

Believe what you'd like. If you want a proper explanation about what i believe, I will refer you to ArucardX. He is much much more able to explain what i believe.

The reason i wont is because i do not yet fully understand my spirituality. I do not want to debate over something i do not completely understand. And i will never completely understand it. But visiting the same places multiple times during seperate DMT experiences, learning from the entities there, along with visiting the same place on mushrooms gives me much of the proof i need. Read DMT: The Spirit Molecule. I figure you would have already, but it seems like you havent since you have such a "drug" view of DMT. And im betting you have the same view on entheogens in general.

If noone is going to change or consider it seriously, why is there reason for discussion about it? IMO its completely useless to explain what i understand/believe thus far unless its to open minded people that would seriously consider it. As its been shown by both you and dystopia, thats not the case here. So i will keep to myself and let the discussion of religions continue.

[Dystopia]

Sorry bro, that ain't Roman Catholicism, at all. The trinity are the one true God, and only God(Father, Son, Holy Spirit, no more, no less) I am a raised Roman Catholic(yea, I am an athiest who went to parochial schools, and learned the Catholic Canon, you cannot disagree with what you don't know), and you will never, ever, hear a Catholic say "Our Lady of Guadalupe.... was (a) God". That is not Catholicism, or hell, even Christianity at all.

When I say the three are one, you should get it if you really are a Catholic, but unless I'm missing a big note on the difference between Roman Catholicism and Mexican-Roman Catholicism, god is not in the moss that causes the 'Rock to blink'. 'The God you worship' if construed how you put it, is a different God than "Our creator, of Heaven and Earth, of Adam and Eve, of all heavenly bodies" than you sir are not a Catholic.

And to whoever asked, All that is needed(in a Christian's eye) to attain Heaven, is to firmly believe Jesus Christ was the savior of humanity, and through him all sins are forgiven. A Murderer who has killed a million people may still attain heaven and ever lasting life, so long as he goes through Jesus.

To me, that is why Christianity is a crock of shit. Some Popes have said 'you do not need to believe in God to go to heaven' but then almost immediately contradicted because that goes against the core teachings of all of Christianity. If you don't need Jesus, why do you need the church?(And really, we should all be jews, because the Jewish Messiah is not the son of god at all, Messiah just means "Anointed One"). I cannot believe in heaven if Ghandi is burning in hell for subscribing to different beliefs, solely because of the culture he grew up in.


I went to parochial schools too, Episcopalian, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Protestant. they all have their own views on god and they all hate every other religion. Some lady came to our school talking about how Islam, which is older than Judaism, is a fake religion.

I took a world religion course in 8th grade and the teacher explained all manner of faiths to me and still refuted them all except for his own, Greek Orthodoxy. How can you teach about other faiths and refute them at the same time. I think that's when I lost faith in all religion.

[kroll]

Islam didn't come around until after Christianity, much less Judaism.

And Vengeful... if you played basketball or soccer in elementary school, it's likely we played against each other. That's weird to think about.

[Vengeful Scars]

Played football and Basketball at Saint Joe's my 8th grade year... it's likely I beat you in basket ball :P

[Vengeful Scars]

I went to parochial schools too, Episcopalian, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Protestant. they all have their own views on god and they all hate every other religion. Some lady came to our school talking about how Islam, which is older than Judaism, is a fake religion.



yea... you're lady was dumb, There is a form of some religion in the middle east that was kinda like today's Islam and it was older than Judaism but today's Islam is a separation from Judaism, much like Christianity.

Yea, that's what I love about all the reformations(that broke off of Catholicism) all now only believe they are right in their beliefs, when there are only very small differences in their ideas. Like Catholics believe in Saints, and so do a few others, also they believe that Mary was someone to be praised, and that started a lot of reformations