How To: Cold Water Extraction (pictures)

[Myth]

A more detailed textual guide is available here: http://www.drugsandbooze.com/showthread.php?18708-Performing-a-Cold-Water-Extraction-%28CWE%29

Read both, it will help.

Here's the pictures of the extraction, I'll try to put them in order for convenience. I might type up some stuff later.

This is the cloth that I used, rubber band tied around the top of the glass. Notice how loosely woven it is.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8714/hpnx0418mx1.jpg

These are the amount of pills I used, and the next picture is them crushed using a paper towel over them and crushing with the end of a butter knife.
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This is how crushed up your powder should be, depending on what pills you are using this could differ. You just don't want big chunks floating around when you're trying to do the extraction.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4460/hpnx0420gj9.jpg

Size comparison, also I use the fork to stir the mixture every few minutes while its in the freezer.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6538/hpnx0423an3.jpg

In the freezer doing the magic.
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Pooring the goodies to be filtered. You may want to add a little more water to the container to get the extra stuff on the walls, and then filter that as well.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8521/hpnx0425uo0.jpg

And this is what it looks like being filtered.
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Dripping slowly...
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Finished product. I did the extraction twice using the same amount of pills both times, but I added a little too much water to one of them, oh well.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4610/hpnx0433rl3.jpg

This is for educational purposes only, and no one should ever try doing this and no one should ever do drugs.

*I HAVE POSTED THIS ON ANOTHER SITE, ONE FOR WHICH I WORK AT, SO DON'T BE SURPRISED IF SOMEONE FINDS IT*

[stimulerium]

Fucking good work Myth, helluva lot better than mine.
You can pretty much understand the whole thing by looking at the pictures. So you wrote the whole thing up again? I guess they never found it.

[oxysandvicsaremyfriends]

I just did the extraction with 10, 7.5 mg Vicodin pills. I drank the solution like 45 minutes ago and I feel like a million bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Myth]

Fucking good work Myth, helluva lot better than mine.
You can pretty much understand the whole thing by looking at the pictures. So you wrote the whole thing up again? I guess they never found it.

It's not better or worse than anyone elses, it's just another explanation.

And yes, I wrote the entire thing up again...I had it moved for certain reasons, and I guess Ollie hid it pretty well ;)

[Myth]

Bump for my other FAQ's sake.

[t0ke the B0ng]

Hey myth I plan on doing this pretty soon, so just a few questions, lets say I put 6 pills into one extraction and I have little opiate tollerance how can I try not to overdose? Like how much should I drink, I will be using percocets, and also can I mix it with some kind of juice? What is the best drink to get rid of most of the taste? Thanks for your reply.

[raghead]

Hey myth I plan on doing this pretty soon, so just a few questions, lets say I put 6 pills into one extraction and I have little opiate tollerance how can I try not to overdose? Like how much should I drink, I will be using percocets, and also can I mix it with some kind of juice? What is the best drink to get rid of most of the taste? Thanks for your reply.

What mg? With percs I am guessing they are either 5 or 10 mgs of oxy which is not nearly enough to od, but 60 mgs might be a too much if you don't have much tolerance.
Anyway, chances are they only have 500 APAP in each of them tops, doing a CWE is pointless. You should be fine popping them, as 500x6 is 3,000.

[t0ke the B0ng]

Ok thanks, they are 60 MG percs. Just out of curiosity, people say you can't snort percs because it won't work or it will clog your nose and stuff like that, but honestly Ive snorted percs so many times and ive never had a problem with this, can anyone tell me why?Maybe its like a certain perc with no APAP or something, I don't know im just guessing im a noobie >_<.

[Myth]

People say you can't snort percs because they have APAP in them. APAP in your nose is VERY DESTRUCTIVE and can cause you MANY problems down the road. The stupidity level of snorting things with APAP is like people who drink Listerine to get drunk, or people who take a handful of unknown pills and then drink their ass of until they wake up 3 days later. It's just not fucking smart, at all. If you keep doing it, just realize you're going to probably have surgery soon on your nasal cavity.

And you said you had a 60mg perc? The highest dose of percocet is 10mg, so if you have supposedly a 60mg one, it's oxycontin or roxicets.

If you can handle 60mg of oxycodone, then that's cool, but if you have no tolerance, I wouldn't take more than 20mg. I saw a girl snort 30mg of oxycontin, it was her first opiate ever, and she ended up puking 30 minutes later, and didn't stop puking for 3 days. So watch yourself.

As for your other post, you should drink all of the liquid, and discard the paste that didn't get through your filter. Chase it with something strong, like juice (NOT CONCENTRATED FRUIT JUICE) such as koolaid, or something like that. The taste is quite fowl, more so than a shot of hard Tequila.

[Soul Rebel]

Just finished doing this with 60mg's of codeine. Rep+'d you when I first started, and I drank it about an hour ago. Works damn well, and your instructions were very clear. Thanks man.

[Myth]

No problem, glad I could help. Stay safe.

[Soulman5280]

this is my first time doing a cwe plz help. i have 19 percocet 5 mg/325 mg of apap, is this too many pills to use at once? if not how much water should i use to dissolve them? what kind of coffee filter works the best (are the disposable paper ones ok?) how much time should i leave the solution in the freezer? thanks

[Pinkfloyd]

Good shit dog. Rep plizzle. What do you know today i just got some percocets. I'm in a lot of pain right now but i might run this shit tomorrow.

[Myth]

this is my first time doing a cwe plz help. i have 19 percocet 5 mg/325 mg of apap, is this too many pills to use at once? if not how much water should i use to dissolve them? what kind of coffee filter works the best (are the disposable paper ones ok?) how much time should i leave the solution in the freezer? thanks

That's 80mg of Oxycodone, so make sure your tolerance is pretty well built up if you're going to do them all at once. If you don't do them all at once, say you take 2-6, you won't need a CWE because there's not enough tylenol to really do anything harmful, unless you want to drink as well.

If you do the entire extraction, use just enough hot water to dissolve the powder into the water. You do NOT want to use too much, or too little. Just add a little bit, not anymore than a shot glass full of water (depending on how much powder you end up with), just add water, mix, see if its gotten to that point of totally dissolved, if not, add a little more water.

Coffee filters don't work good for me, although others have success with them. I use an old wash cloth that is loosely woven (in the pictures above).

You leave it in the freezer until the solution is ALMOST starting to freeze. You can check this by using a thermometer, or just put your finger in there and see if it's cold. Once you start to see it freezing, then you've gone too far and some of your product will be useless. So, I'd say check the freezer every 2-3 minutes until it starts to kind of "goop" up, and you can see that when you move the cup around that the liquid moves slower, this is perfect timing, and you should immediately strain it. You could also just use an icecube, or better yet ice shavings, but this causes problems because it adds more water to the mixture, giving the bad fillers more water to hook up with, which is why we start off with warm water, because it dissolves in hot water better than cold; you won't need as much water.

If you have any other questions you should PM me, because I don't check the forums much anymore aside from the occasional down time where I have nothing better to do, so I'll see PM's first. Hope I helped! BE SAFE!!!!

[VtecPowered]

Nice thread, and good job on the process. The only critque I would have would be, it works better to use coffee filters. Mainly because they have smaller wholes and let through less APAP and less fillers. Although I do have to say the cloth did a better job than I thought it would, from the pictures.

[Falc]

Nice thread, and good job on the process. The only critque I would have would be, it works better to use coffee filters. Mainly because they have smaller wholes and let through less APAP and less fillers. Although I do have to say the cloth did a better job than I thought it would, from the pictures.

The one time I did a CWE I used a coffee filter. It really depends on the person doing it and what they have available, but a filter is a filter for the most part.

[Myth]

Nice thread, and good job on the process. The only critque I would have would be, it works better to use coffee filters. Mainly because they have smaller wholes and let through less APAP and less fillers. Although I do have to say the cloth did a better job than I thought it would, from the pictures.

When I used coffee filters the water would not strain. I might get a drop every minute, but I'm sure I'm not alone when I say "I don't have the patience for that". When you're doing a CWE, chances are you're jonesin' and don't want to wait that long.

If using a coffee filter works for you, then use that. It's whatever works best, and what works best for me was that cloth.

[HUSHMAIL]

will the CWE take out all the fillers as well as the Apap?
Want to IV hydro ( intermuscular)

[dnbmember]

No you can't IV a CWE because it doesn't take out 100% of the APAP.

[HUSHMAIL]

even it is 10/200 hydro compound capsules????

[dnbmember]

Yeah. You can't. Sorry.

[mguard3]

I know a lot of ppl around who mix alcohol and hydros, which Im sure is killing their liver... just wondering, if you CWE the codeine is it safe to mix with alcohol since the acetominophen is gone?

[moosifer]

That is still mixing a downer (opiates) + a downer (alcohol), which is not recommended. That doesn't people from doing it however.

[mguard3]

its usually only 1 or 2, 5 mg hydros.. nothin crazy, just done wanna kill liver with acetominophen + alcohol

[Loner13]

Mixing pills with any type of alcohol is stupid. Just keep that in mind before you make decisions.

[mguard3]

im not askin for advice, im askin if it is safer to mix alcohol/hydros after CWE... I know alcohol and acetominophen are toxic to your liver, but is codeine? with most of the acetominophen gone, is it safer? I dont do it much, 1-2 times a week max, and I havent done it in over 2 months.. just curious

[moosifer]

It's safer w/o the apap(acetaminophen). Less stress to your liver

[Wolfie]

It is not "safe" to mix hydros with alcohol. People do it all the time and live. But mixing any narcotic painkiller with alcohol can lead to death.

[mguard3]

i know its not "safe", theres not really anything on this forum thats "safe"... I just read about CWE a few days ago and wondered if it would make it easier on your liver to remove the acetaminophen, makes sense to me.. I never take more than 10 mg of hydrocodones and have a few beers, usually only on the weekends.. I quit takin them for a few months bc I was scared of hurting my liver so I was wondering if this would allow me to do it "safer"

[Wolfie]

10 mg of hydrocodone is fine without a CWE. It's like taking a couple of Tylonol. The CWE would make it "safer", but at that low of a dose I wouldn't worry too much about it.