How to extract LSA from morning glory/HBWR seeds...

[Anonymous D]

WORK IN PROGRESS

In this little HOW TO, I am going to show you how to extract the LSA from a batch of Morning Glory, or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. Here is what you will need.

A few jars
Coffee Grinder
Coffee Filters
Pure Naphtha or some Toluene. (I used Toluene)
3500 Morning Glory seeds OR 125-150 HBWR seeds
Some strong alcohol. I used Ever Clear. If you cant get that, Ive heard that Bacardi 151 will also work.
Time

Step one. Get the seeds
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Step two: Grind the seeds.
You need to grind them almost into a powder. But not too much. If you grind them so much that they go through the coffee filter, then well, you are screwed.
I got this grinder from Wal-Mart for $15
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Step Three: Soak the seeds
This is one of the parts you need to really pay attention to. There are some solvents you DO NOT want to use. Mainly because they leave a residue when they evaporate and you dont want that. I used Toluene and it evaporated very clean. You cant put too much of the Toluene (or what ever you use), just make sure there is enough to cover the seeds. I let this sit for about 24 hours, shaking it when I passed by it.

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That layer between the liquid and the seeds is just really really fine ground up seeds. You DO NOT want to ground them all up like that, but some will. If you do them all that fine then most of the seeds will go right throught the coffee filter.

Step Four: Let the seeds dry.

Pour the seeds out throught a coffee filter and get as much of the solvent out as possible. I used two coffee filters and squeezed it to get most of it out.
Then spread the seeds out in thin layers on whatever you want. I used paper plates so I could just throw them away. Let it dry over night.
There shoud be no smell of solvents left once the seeds are dry. If you smell solvent then they are not done drying, or you used the wrong stuff.

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Step Five: Soak the seeds in the Alcohol.

After the seeds are completely dry and free of any solvent smell, pour them in a jar and then put some alcohol in. You are supposed to put 50 mL of alcohol in, but with 3500 seeds its impossible. I just poured it in till I had enough. We will get to how to get around this obstacle later.

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Step Six: Wait

Step Seven: Strain the alcohol.

This is where you will learn from others mistakes. USE HBWR seeds. If you use Morning Glory you have to use 3500, and trying to get all the alcohol out of that is impossible. I probably lost more than I got.

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Step Eight: Get the dirt out.
There will be alot of that fine powder in your liquid. Let it sit till it all settles then pour the liquid out, leaving the dirt. I did this a few times, rinsing inbetween pours to get all the dirt out. When I was done, I took the dirt I had left and made what I call a "trash hit" Basically putting the dirty stuff in its own container and saving that just incase.

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In this picture you can see the dirt I had left. I used a small syringe and sucked it up around the dirt, then pouring the rest of the dirt out.

Step 9: Let the alcohol evaporate. (You can skip this step and go out and drink the alcohol if you want. But I had to use more than the 50 mL of alcohol, so I wouldnt have been able to tell what was one dose, so I just let it all evaporate.)
You will be left with this yellowish brown gunk. THIS is what you want.

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Then if you want ( I wouldn't recommend it. Its hard as hell to do unless you have the right tools) you cna put the gunk in gel caps.

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I should be able to do it this weekend and Ill let you guys know how it goes. Untill then, I am keeping it cool and in a dark place because LSA will last longer like that. I have it in my mini fridge.

I probably missed something, so if you have something to add, feel free.

[Anonymous D]

I thought of a way to make sure you get most if not all of the LSA out.

After you strain it, pour some Ever Clear through the filter to rinse all the LSA off the seeds. It will take longer to evaporate, but you will get more in the long run. I plan on taking it Saturday, and if it works, Ill do it again, but this time Ill do that and let you guys know how that works out.

[HAL]

+rep

That's awesome man. Be sure to report how the trip goes, sounds like it'll be tight.

[stimulerium]

Rep+

Very nice work and good pics. This will be my first choice for instructions when I extract it.
I'm trying LSA soon so thanks!

[St.Giga]

Just a quick question for you.
I've purchased all the components for a clean extraction, although I chose to use Naptha, and followed the erowid directions concerning how long to soak the seeds in it.
My question is this.
For awhile before I started doing the extraction, I thought about how difficult it would be to strain the mixture through a coffee filter to rid it of the naptha. However, in my Linear Algebra class yesterday, a [seemingly] amazing idea came to me.
I ground up the seeds and put them between four coffee filters which I sewed together to make a "two-ply" (two coffee filters on either side) make-shift tea bag.
As far as I can imagine, this shouldn't affect the extraction in any negative way, only serving to make it easier to do so.
I put the tea-bag in the correct amount of naptha and shook for twenty minutes. After, I dumped out the naptha, and as there was still some naptha contained within the tea bag itself, I hung it from one corner into the jar I used, and screwed the cap back on so it can properly drain out.
If this works, and I can get the tea bag to dry properly, I plan on doing the exact same thing when I use alcohol...
Let me know what you think about this. It makes the whole process seem a lot more manageable to me.

Also as a side note:
This is my first post on DnB, so if this is the wrong place to have done so, please let me know, and I apologize.

[Anonymous D]

Seems like it would take longer to dry if than just making thin layers.

And when you use the alchohol like I said I should have done. Strain what you can, then pour fresh every clear through it to rinse all the LSA off the filter and chopped seeds.

There is SO much that you cant strain out.

[dnbmember]

I want a trip report, how is this shit anyways?

[Anonymous D]

I want a trip report, how is this shit anyways?

The time hasnt been right. I havent been able to take it yet. Its been sitting in my mini fridge.

Im thinking about just skipping school one day and taking it though.

[Anonymous D]

LSA gelcaps anyone?

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[stimulerium]

Ooh, they kinda look nasty.
But at least you won't have to eat a ton of seeds.

Make sure you tell us how it goes.

[vortexoflife]

you never posted a trip report plus that seems like a lot of work for a couple pills....did you only get two out of it?

[bunny]

What exactly is LSA? I have morning glories literally choking my backyard. I hate them and I end up chopping them down every 3 weeks. I never knew they could be good for something.

[MicrOgraM]

It's lsd's weaker father, still a lot of fun.

The seeds make a lot of people puke though unless they use the Hawaiian baby woodrose and even at that people still puke.

But if you extract the morning glories you will get something to trip on thats not completely horrible.

[kcboy2fine]

step 5 and 6 how long of a soak and step 6 how long of a wait..also have you even ate them yet.im like an old school acid head and i cant find real LSD so ill just make me a trip so im looking for the best safest way to make it...

[Anonymous D]

step 5 and 6 how long of a soak and step 6 how long of a wait..also have you even ate them yet.im like an old school acid head and i cant find real LSD so ill just make me a trip so im looking for the best safest way to make it...

Let them sit for about 48 hours.

[Dark_Knight]

I might give this a try.

Unfortunately im not 21 and everclear does not exist here. So im assuming i can use any polar solvent? just let it sit longer though right?

[Malk]

I have a question, if you use 3500 seeds of morning in the seeds not processed r like 35 doses.
when extract the lsa how many doses you get?

[doublestaxx]

Expect < 50% yeild especially if it's your first time. Theoretically you can get the same amount of doses out of it, but realistically you'll probably get 1/2 to 1/4 of the doses if that. I've done the extraction on 150 HBWR seeds and it was enough for 5 good doses. So that's about a 33% yeild give or take.

[RoBo_tRiPpEr]

@Malk. If you are just eating 100 seeds straight, that will be a week dose. idk about everyone else but I ate about 200 to 300 and barly felt anything. I just kind of felt disoriented and things didn't seem formilliar.

[got5onit420]

what do i do with the solvant after i strain it do i get ride of it or is it used

[Anonymous D]

what do i do with the solvant after i strain it do i get ride of it or is it used

Throw it away.

[stradivarius]

Why do you use Naphta/toluene ? Why can't you just use ethanol/methanol to extract lsa from the gunk and throw the rest away?

[blindtripper]

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but could you use acetone?

[MGMT]

Could i use zippo fluid for the the nonpolar solution instead of naptha?

[Seth]

Zippo fluid is naptha, am I correct? If so, then go ahead.

Edit: Damn it, mega-necro. Gotta love them benzos.

[the_fee_verte]

@Malk. If you are just eating 100 seeds straight, that will be a week dose. idk about everyone else but I ate about 200 to 300 and barly felt anything. I just kind of felt disoriented and things didn't seem formilliar.

If you were eating HWBR seeds then you must have had ghana strain seeds. 300 HWBR seeds eaten straight carry enough arsenic to make you very sick and the vasoconstrictive properties of the seeds can cut off blood circulation to the brain. No blood in brain = dead. The average HWBR dose is 3 to 7 quality HAWAIIAN STRAIN seeds or up to 12 for a stronger trip. The Tryptamine family of hallucinogens can cause overwhelming feelings of fear, detachment, and paranoia at extremely high doses. You are safe up to maybe 15 or 20 seeds if you have eaten woodrose before but 300 seeds of woodrose anyway is unheard of so I hope you are talking about morning glorys. And water can also be used instead of alcohol but is VERY hard to evaporate obviously. You should also NEVER get your LSA above 75 degrees ferenheit because heat kills the lsa alkaloid. And if you're worried about nausea, use the water extracted LSA and take it rectally. (I know gross right, butt it works :-D)