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MyFavoriteAccident
07-24-2006, 10:04 PM
The California NORML/MAPS Smoking Device Study
Contrary to popular impression, waterpipes don't necessarily protect smokers from harmful tars in marijuana smoke, according to a study sponsored by California NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws) and MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies). The reason is that waterpipes filter out proportionately more psychoactive THC than they do other tars, thereby requiring users to smoke more to reach their desired high. The study does not rule out the possibility that waterpipes could have other benefits, such as filtering out noxious gases, but it suggests that other methods, such as the use of high potency pot, vaporizers, or oral ingestion, are needed to avoid harmful toxins in marijuana smoke.
http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/smokestudy.html
Damn I didn't know that bongs filtered that much THC from the weed.
HeroInTheHat
07-24-2006, 10:55 PM
Yeah man, I don't understand though, like bongs get me so ripped.
Bongs get you so rpped because there is more smoke in each hit compared to a J or a Bowl.
Ridin' Dirty
07-25-2006, 06:19 PM
THC doesn't dissolve in water, some of the shit you don't want in your lungs does though. That thing's bullshit, you get way more bang for your buck when you smoke out of a bong. If it were true, drinking bong water would fuck you up.
Se7en
07-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Wow, interesting, but I find it hard to believe.
dankstarR
07-26-2006, 02:09 AM
THC doesn't dissolve in water, some of the shit you don't want in your lungs does though. That thing's bullshit, you get way more bang for your buck when you smoke out of a bong. If it were true, drinking bong water would fuck you up.
Yeah,THC isnt water solubale(sp?) so i dont see how that would really make sense at all.
fetal
07-26-2006, 02:28 AM
Yeah,THC isnt water solubale(sp?) so i dont see how that would really make sense at all.
Yes. It's alcohol soluable though. So unless you're using alcohol as your bong water, keep toking bongs to get fuckin ripped.
MyFavoriteAccident
08-01-2006, 01:04 AM
Yeah,THC isnt water solubale(sp?) so i dont see how that would really make sense at all.
Despite what many people may tell you, THC actually is slightly soluble in water (2.8 mg/L at room temperature[23 °C]). Im not quite sure why it seems that everyone thinks that THC is not soluble in water but it is in fact hydrophilic.
dankstarR
08-01-2006, 01:27 AM
Despite what many people may tell you, THC actually is slightly soluble in water (2.8 mg/L at room temperature[23 °C]). Im not quite sure why it seems that everyone thinks that THC is not soluble in water but it is in fact hydrophilic.
But still,that dosnt seem like enought too really take away from the THC entering you.
Ridin' Dirty
08-01-2006, 01:45 AM
Despite what many people may tell you, THC actually is slightly soluble in water (2.8 mg/L at room temperature[23 °C]). Im not quite sure why it seems that everyone thinks that THC is not soluble in water but it is in fact hydrophilic.
Slightly soluble is the same thing as insoluble. 2.8 mg for every liter is tiny, and wouldn't have any effect.
MyFavoriteAccident
08-01-2006, 11:05 AM
Slightly soluble is the same thing as insoluble. 2.8 mg for every liter is tiny, and wouldn't have any effect.
If you think about it, your average bud is only about 5% THC. So if you pack a .25g bowl in your bong than you should have about 12.5mg of THC. At 2.8mg/L, if you put one liter of water in your bong than your losing 22.4% of the THC.
lesbian_seagull
08-04-2006, 02:52 AM
I love bongs though. This will not sway me.
millerwhite
08-04-2006, 02:10 PM
Are you kidding me? I can get pretty high off a bong load from a good bong. I dont belive this one bit.
Dosed
08-04-2006, 02:25 PM
Are you kidding me? I can get pretty high off a bong load from a good bong. I dont belive this one bit.
Think about it this way.
With a bong, you use much more time and suction to take a hit than you would with a pipe, so you end up getting a large amount of smoke, even if some of the THC is filtered out. However, because of this, you don't get as many hits out of a bong bowl as a pipe bowl, meaning you use more pot in the long run.
With a pipe, none of the THC is filtered out so you don't have to use as much pot, but rather than taking 5-6 hits to get high, you may end up taking twice that since pipe hits aren't nearly as big as bong rips.
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I won't dispute the fact that bongs are badass, but you do end up "wasting" a little bit of pot when you smoke out of one. I don't think it's a question of which gets you higher; it's more a matter of how stingy you are with your weed.
dankstarR
08-05-2006, 12:24 AM
Long Live The Bongs...
Entropy
08-10-2006, 03:06 AM
If you think about it, your average bud is only about 5% THC. So if you pack a .25g bowl in your bong than you should have about 12.5mg of THC. At 2.8mg/L, if you put one liter of water in your bong than your losing 22.4% of the THC.
Use colder water.
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