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dankotron3000
05-20-2004, 02:41 AM
First off I'd like to say that this particular ether experience is probably not the way to go. This stuff can fuck your brain up or kill you in one sitting if you're not careful. It's a drug you should definitely read up on before even thinking about using... not like I did.

With that out of the way, about 4 months ago I had the most bizarre experience of my life. I was at a friends, who had a pretty bizarre character running around his house with an Evian bottle full of ether. I'd heard of the stuff in Fear and Loathing but that was about it. We had a handful of people over, and decided to give it a shot.

We passed the bottle around in a circle with a rag, inhaling. The stuff burns. It's tough to inhale. Each person would sit on the rag for about half a minute, pour some fresh ether on it, and pass it on.

My first inhalation got me buzzing. By the time I'd finished sucking all the fumes off of the rag, I felt as if I was some kind of uber-drunk. I was dancing around and the room was spinning but I felt great. It wore off in about 10 minutes, and we went for another round. Each time the effects hit me harder. Jake, the crazy guy who was supplying the stuff, assured us all that we'd know when we had enough. This seemed true for everyone but myself. I wanted more and more. I was too fucked up to really care about stopping.

At about my tenth refill of the stuff, I just kept on the rag. I went outside to the porch with it and nobody was really paying attention. I wound up inhaling that shit for damn near half an hour straight. This is the part where I'm lucky I'm not dead. I had no comprehension of what I was doing, and there was no babysitter around to deal with that decision for me. Finally Jake found me slumped over in the corner of the porch with the rag on my face, giggling my ass off. Babysitters are important, especially with new drugs.

Jake took the bottle from me and hauled me back inside. Everyone was watching a skate video. My friend Joanna was really concerned, and she kept talking to me, but her voice was echoing so much that I couldn't understand a word of what she said. All the sounds in the room were echoing about a million times in my head. I was laughing my ass off, but my brain was calm. I was contemplating the fact that I could be dying, but it didn't seem like such a horrible thing. I wondered to myself if perhaps I'd given myself some kind of brain damage. As time passed, my thoughts got less and less coherent. I wound up with compeltely circular thinking; everything began to feel like deja-vu. I'd try to reason out what was happening around me, and after minutes of trying to use logic to sort it all out I'd wind up back at the original question I was asking. I couldn't remember how I got there but I remembered I'd already wondered this thing I was wondering. It was maddening.

Gradually I began seeing geometric spirals around my peripheral vision. It's the kind of pattern you see when you apply pressure to your eyelids when your eyes are closed. They closed in slowly until I was just sitting there on the floor, unable to see anything else. I remember thinking about this process and calmly realizing that I couldn't open my eyes. It felt like the section of my brain responsible for motor skills was having a seizure. I felt very calm through all of this, but it wasn't fun.

I passed out a while later. I felt really tired the next day and my thoughts were very scattered. That lasted for about 3 days.

I'd never do ether again... I feel like I've gotten my fill of it. It was a unique experience but inhalants aren't something I'd like to make a habit of. Since then I've always been sure to get someone I can trust to keep an eye on me if I'm trying something new. Before I started binging on that shit, I knew I only wanted a couple of huffs of it. As I got more and more fucked up, though, I became completely unaware of what I was doing. Be careful.

That's all :)

Paul Kemp
05-20-2004, 03:57 AM
Yeah, I've done ether before; my mom turned me on to it. She calls it "head cleaner."

It's best to make sure you have just a limited supply. You don't wanna have the big bottlefull; if you can, just fill up like a perfume bottles worth instead.

dankotron3000
05-20-2004, 04:05 AM
Yeah, I've done ether before; my mom turned me on to it. She calls it "head cleaner."

It's best to make sure you have just a limited supply. You don't wanna have the big bottlefull; if you can, just fill up like a perfume bottles worth instead.

This was another problem. 20 ounces of ether can last a long, long time.

juice
05-20-2004, 12:09 PM
What I want to know, is where can you find this? They don't produce it anymore so I have heard. =\

heliX--
05-20-2004, 12:30 PM
You can extract it from other chemicals... A quick scan of erowid didn't turn up any guides however, and I wouldn't recommend ether to my worst enemies. The hangover is far too terrible of an experience. :P

dankotron3000
05-20-2004, 02:04 PM
What I want to know, is where can you find this? They don't produce it anymore so I have heard. =\

My friend got it from his school's chemistry lab. It's far too common to not be produced any more. You can also extract it somehow from something else... I really don't know shit about that, but I know people who've done it. I'm sure you can find instructions on the internet.

Chariot_of_Fire
05-20-2004, 02:12 PM
Have you seen the movie "Cider House Rules" ? There is a charachter in the movie, a doctor who is addicted to Ether. It was used in the past as an anesthetic for surgery. The doctor ends up dying from an overdose in the movie. I guess you didn't die, yet at least.

Making ether, i think i remember seeing it on the drugs section of the classic and widely read "Anarchist's Cookbook".

Good times.

Paul Kemp
05-20-2004, 02:21 PM
Well, I haven't found a distributor, but I did find this:

http://www.doh.state.fl.us/pharmacy/WebPage/htmlwebpages/permitandfees.html
Ether
10 Diethyl Ether Manufacturer $700.00
11 Diethyl Ether Distributor $700.00
12 Diethyl Ether Dealer $350.00
13 Diethyl Ether Purchaser $150.00


Edit: a number of chemical supply companies stock it for use as a solvent, among other things. Here's one:

http://www.equistarchem.com/html/petrochemical/oxygenated_chemicals/DE.htm

Paul Kemp
05-20-2004, 02:27 PM
I thought this trip report from Erowid was pretty fucking cool too:

Dr. Holmes [of Harvard Medical School] inhaled ether at a time when it was popularly supposed to produce mystical or 'mind-expanding' experiences, much as LSD is supposed to produce such experiences today. Here is his account of what happened:

'I once inhaled a pretty full dose of ether, with the determination to put on record, at the earliest moment of regaining consciousness, the thought I should find uppermost in my mind. The mighty music of the triumphal march into nothingness reverberated through my brain, and filled me with a sense of infinite possibilities, which made me an archangel for a moment. The veil of eternity was lifted. The one great truth which underlies all human experience and is the key to all the mysteries that philosophy has sought in vain to solve, flashed upon me in a sudden revelation. Henceforth all was clear: a few words had lifted my intelligence to the level of the knowledge of a cherubim. As my natural condition returned, I remembered my resolution; and, staggering to my desk, I wrote, in ill-shaped, straggling characters, the all-embracing truth still glimmering in my consciousness. The words were these (children may smile; the wise ponder): 'A strong smell of turpentine prevails throughout'

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Mechanism in Thought and Morals, Phi Beta Kappa address, Harvard Univeristy, June 29, 1870 (Boston: J.R. Osgood and Company, 1871).

as cited in

Licit & Illicit Drugs: The Consumers Union Report on Narcotics, Stimulants, Depressants, Inhalants, Hallucinogens & Marijuana - including Caffeine, Nicotine and Alcohol.

microwinder
05-20-2004, 02:28 PM
If you are good, you could get some from Chemestry labs (my old one had some), but I highly recommend you don't. It can easily kill you.

a_elephant
05-20-2004, 03:57 PM
I would imagine you can make it from drinking alcohol as well.
Drinking alcohol is ethyl alcohol CH3CH2-OH, diethyl ether is CH3CH2-O-CH2CH3.
Simple dehydration synthesis, 2 EtOH --> Diethyl ether + H2O

microwinder
05-20-2004, 04:01 PM
Very true, but I wonder how hard it would be to make. If it's that easy, they'd be selling it on the street corners.

a_elephant
05-20-2004, 04:35 PM
It's dangerous because of its flammability; that's why you don't see it sold on street corners.

Looks like you'll also need sulfuric acid as well:

http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/ethyl.ether.html

m54sam
05-20-2004, 06:23 PM
damn..Ive heard that 20 minutes will mix your motor skills soo bad you'll loose bowel control..your damn lucky danko...great post though.

Paul Kemp
05-21-2004, 03:17 PM
Oh, and by the way, ether isn't head cleaner anyway. That would be rush.

Yeah, I know Rush. That's basically poppers (Amyl Nitrate). But my mom still calls ether head cleaner.

juice
05-21-2004, 08:24 PM
Yeah, I know Rush. That's basically poppers (Amyl Nitrate). But my mom still calls ether head cleaner.


Obtaining Amyls hard?

freebieprincess
05-22-2004, 01:49 AM
oops computer freaking out

freebieprincess
05-22-2004, 01:49 AM
Nevermind