LSD based Ecstacy?

[notverysalmonlike]

I was wondering if Ecstasy can have an LSD base...LSA? It could be but it seems so unlikely. I've never heard of it nor seen it on any website or other peoples experiences. The only LSD/Ecstasy combination I've seen was candy flipping. Not Ecstasy with LSD in it. I would believe that LSD or LSA could be in Ecstasy but it's so unlikely to me I don't think it would ever happen. Even if it did have LSD in it would you still trip off of it?

The only bases I've seen in an Ecstasy pill have been the following: MDMA, MDA, MDE, Diph, Methamphetamine, Caffeine, Acetaminophen, Ephedrine, Ketamine, and DXM.

Any help on this?

[wng-]

Technically, I would think it's possible, but I very highly doubt people do/sell it.

The active dose for acid is extremely small, and it could be applied to X pills the same way that some people apply it to sweet-tarts as a method of ingestion. Just drop some liquid onto the pill and let it sit there.

I googled it and did a quick scan through pillreports and it didnt come up with anything, so I don't think it's likely that people actually do this.

[Renegade]

It is possible because i've had an acid-based tab. And I surprisingly did hallucinate, and so did my friends who took some.

Not that this helps, but it was purple with a big "J" on it. Haven't seen them since though.

[Ollie]

Highly doubtful. It's theoretically possible, I guess, if someone dropped it onto the pill -- but no way in hell would a pill be able to be trafficked with LSD in it -- too many variables that could easily destroy LSD, which is sensitive to temprature, light, and oxygen. Unlike HCl salts, which would likely last longer than you will.

MDA and MDEA both have hallucinogenic properties. MDMA has arguably hallucinogenic properties. Given a dim lighting situation (like most of us enjoy rolling in) and a healthy dose of psychosomatic effects, you can easily see visions.

A person well-versed in LSD would notice the difference right off the bat though -- hallucinations were mostly ethereal/realistic as opposed to LSD's constant motion of liquid.

It's also worth noting that LSD's length of trip is considerably longer than ecstasy, so someone would notice something fishy REAL quick -- you'd still be tripping long after you were done with the E if you took them simultaneously.

This, of course, could also be represented with simple economics. If you can sell a tab of LSD for $5-10 (several years ago -- prices have skyrocketed) and a pill of E for $15-$20, does it make sense to sell them together for the same price? Dealers are in it to MAKE MONEY, not to show you a free, good time. Nowadays, legit LSD sells for MUCH more due to its rare appearance in most areas of the nation.

TL;DR: If you've done acid, you should be able to tell that your pill doesn't have any in it. The pill in question likely (in my opinion) contains MDA. A Simon's Reagent (I think) would be able to tell you within a reasonable doubt. I don't remember if it's the Simon's or another one though.

[toxc]

I have had so many <insert drug here>- based tabs pushed on me...

"oh man I got these crazy DMT based tabs" or "hey I got some mescaline based tabs"

I read up on the mescaline at least,and aparently it is impossible to fit the dose required to trip on the size of a tab...

[booberry]

I have had so many <insert drug here>- based tabs pushed on me...

"oh man I got these crazy DMT based tabs" or "hey I got some mescaline based tabs"

I read up on the mescaline at least,and aparently it is impossible to fit the dose required to trip on the size of a tab...
Really? Can anyone else verify this? I could swear that it's possible to cut MDMA with mescaline, not a large enough dose to trip on it's own, but when mixed with ecstasy to enhance it. I thought I had some one time, but it turned out it was cut with ketamine... But damn I've always wanted ones that were cut with mescaline it sounds fucking awesome.

Anyway, this question is pretty on topic so I'll ask it here instead of making a new thread. What DO you cut pills with to make people SERIOUSLY hallucinate? I've gotten a pill or two that made me have hallucinations out the ASS, and I notice that redish/pink pills seem to give me the most pronounced visual effects (maybe dealers around here use red dye for hallucinogenic cuts?). I fuckin LOVE like tripping while rolling, it's the greatest.

[jesusfish]

Really? Can anyone else verify this? I could swear that it's possible to cut MDMA with mescaline, not a large enough dose to trip on it's own, but when mixed with ecstasy to enhance it.

The dose recquired to trip on mescaline starts at 100 mg which is too large for paper tabs. You could fit that into a pill, however.


What DO you cut pills with to make people SERIOUSLY hallucinate?

Most of the pills I get are pretty clean and we test them. I've found that most of the halucinagetic effects I have gotten were because of MDA / MDEA or a one of the 2c-* chemicals (usually the first rather than the later). MDA and MDEA will give you a more shorter, though significantly more trippy roll than MDMA. The 2c-* based pills gave me none of the euphoria I normally had; instead I noticed that I was tripping after taking them. Once you've experienced a substance a few times it isn't hard to figure out what you've taken.

[Vengeful Scars]

Once you've experienced a substance a few times it isn't hard to figure out what you've taken.

...You just said what I've been trying to think of for awhile.

[Ollie]

The dose recquired to trip on mescaline starts at 100 mg which is too large for paper tabs. You could fit that into a pill, however.
However, if you're mass-producing pills, it's ridiculous to synthesize mescaline (and or extract it to the salt, which is extremely time-consuming) because the cost of the synthesis outweighs what you'd need to charge for the pill -- the yield is too low. Plus, 100mg is barely threshhold and then doesn't leave much room for the ecstasy itself along with filler -- most pills you figure weigh between 200-300mg. There's no reason mescaline would ever be pressed into a pill, unless you knew someone with a pill press (and assuming you had the chem skills) who was willing to do you a favor. But it's not profitable whatsoever.

MDA and MDEA will both make you "seriously" hallucinate -- I have seen people walk out of walls and open imaginary doors and vanish into smoke. I'm sure any of the 2-C* substances would as well -- and there, it might actually BE fiscally viable to use that in a pill because of the small dose required (and therefore the lower cost of production). My vote is still MDxx though.

[booberry]

Yeah I was tripping my balls off hallucinating from those fuckin ninja stars, I asked my dealer what he thought was in them mainly, and sure enough he said MDEA. Everyone who took a red ninja star was having some serious hallucinations, anyone know the one where shit gains a 4th dimension of measurement? Like shit has a height, width, length, and then some new strange dimension just opens up... yeah it's fucked.

[Milla]

I've heard it is possible but you have to take about 4 to get some noticeable LSD effects.

[booberry]

I think people overestimate cutting a pill with something... Here's a good way to look at it. I have to take at least 3 hits of 2c-e around here to trip off of it, however when I took one hit with 3 pills of E, I tripped the FUCK out. You only need a small amount of a hallucinogen if you're already on a hard dose of another hallucinogens, especially because MDMA is much more neurotoxic than 2c-e. Cutting a pill with somethin fun adds a new edge to it, and you'll feel even a small ass amount.

[blowbigsmoke]

a friend of mine from FL said that he used to get gel capsules filled with liquid acid, and inside of the capsule there was an E pill, has anyone heard of this before?